DRG is unbalanced and desperately needs a buff.

[Luso]

Dragoon plays at the same level as monk and blackmage. Try changing up your rotations if your dps is not reaching the numbers you want it to. Look at your gear maybe you have some useless or undervalued gear compared to your party. There should be no problem with dragoons even the jumps are fine. Though it is nice the animations are getting a speed boost it is not that difficult to weave jumps in between enemy attacks and player abilities.

Disembowel is also a great buff for Dragoons damage as much as a bards.

[Ryel]

I find all this info interesting but no one has really pointed out how each job scales with better gear. The scales of ilvl100 stuff may put a drg as top dog. Dps through gear is not linear.

The issue there would be that you shouldn't need to over-gear for content in order to perform your job comparatively to others that are fulfilling similar roles (especially when some are having an easier time of doing so)

This isn't exclusive to DRG either as it's the current issue that WAR is having vs PLD

I'm hoping the changes in 2.1 will address some of these issues

[Altena]

Dragoon plays at the same level as monk and blackmage. Try changing up your rotations if you dps is not reaching the numbers you want it to. Look at your gear maybe you have some useless or undervalued gear compared to your party. There should be no problem with dragoons even the jumps are fine. Though it is nice the animations are getting a speed boost it is not that difficult to weave jumps in between enemy attacks and player abilities.

Disembowel is also a great buff for Dragoons damage as much as a bards.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1332490/

My gear is fine.

My rotation is also fine.

[Radacci]

I agree that DRG needs more fun mechanics, it's kinda boring to have a job just...jumping.
But DRG is not behind, when it comes to DPS. All DPS classes are fairly equal. when i parse, my DRG/BRD/BLM all do pretty much same DPS, and they have relics/DL. MNK has garuda claws, and does slightly lower DPS.
If you, or other DRG do lower damage, it's cause they dont have good skill rotation; that is all. Equally geared/skilled ppl, always do about same DPS. BLM has higher max damage than BRD, but cast much slower, so it's same DPS anyways. And it's no different with DRG. DRG does higher damage than MNK, but MNK use skills faster, so it's about same DPS.

[DeadRiser]

Black Mage is technically supposed to be your highest DPS job in the game. They deal crazy damage and have chance skills. But they also can't cast while moving, have some mp downtime if things aren't timed right, and are pretty much dead if they get hit by something. Yes, Black Mage will have higher DPS than you. But on fights that require a lot of movement like Titan, their DPS will drop pretty fast.

Bard is already getting nerfed for the patch so no comparison there.

[Altena]

If you, or other DRG do lower damage, it's cause they dont have good skill rotation; that is all. Equally geared/skilled ppl, always do about same DPS. BLM has higher max damage than BRD, but cast much slower, so it's same DPS anyways. And it's no different with DRG. DRG does higher damage than MNK, but MNK use skills faster, so it's about same DPS.

This is incorrect.

When 2 DRGs that are equally geared, are parsing very similar numbers, that are much lower then equally geared BRDs and BLMs there is a problem with balance.

Sorry to point out the obvious here but
DRG's rotation is not rocket science.
Keep buffs up.
Keep DoT's up.
Use Fracture, Leg Sweep, Power Surge/Jump, FT combo as filler.

This is not a "skill" issue, it is a balance issue. Just look at the job choices for world firsts / Twintania wins over the previous couple of weeks.

[Radacci]

This is incorrect.

When 2 DRGs that are equally geared, are parsing very similar numbers, that are much lower then equally geared BRDs and BLMs there is a problem with balance.

Sorry to point out the obvious here but
DRG's rotation is not rocket science.
Keep buffs up.
Keep DoT's up.
Use Fracture, Leg Sweep, Power Surge/Jump, FT combo as filler.

This is not a "skill" issue, it is a balance issue. Just look at the job choices for world firsts / Twintania wins over the previous couple of weeks.

Random Number Generation.
Sometimes i out-damage ppl with better gear, sometimes ppl with lower gear, out-damage me.
Why would it be proof, that DRG is underpowered, just cause world first, didnt bring DRG?

[Altena]

Random Number Generation.
Sometimes i out-damage ppl with better gear, sometimes ppl with lower gear, out-damage me.
Why would it be proof, that DRG is underpowered, just cause world first, didnt bring DRG?

Nothing "sometimes" about it.

Our BRD's total damage over a few hours was 350,000.
Both DRG's were doing 280,000 (give or take 3-4k.)

[pompey_dan]

When 2 DRGs that are equally geared, are parsing very similar numbers, that are much lower then equally geared BRDs and BLMs there is a problem with balance.

DRG's rotation is not rocket science.
Keep buffs up.
Keep DoT's up.
Use Fracture, Leg Sweep, Power Surge/Jump, FT combo as filler.

This is not a "skill" issue, it is a balance issue. Just look at the job choices for world firsts/Twintania wins over the previous couple of weeks.

Dunno why you would use a imperial choker over darklight ????

Fracture isnt really worth using on DRG either apart from the rare filler if you have a buffed CT about to be clipped, using spinshatterdive is normally enough for that tho.

I normally parse top or close to top on twintania, our group uses 1drg, 1blm, 1smn, 1brd and yes we have beat it. I dont see how your bards could be 25% ahead of your drg's :/ . Either really good bards and my group beat it with a bad bard, or you have bad DRG's

[Radacci]

Nothing "sometimes" about it.

Our BRD's total damage over a few hours was 350,000.
Both DRG's were doing 280,000 (give or take 3-4k.)

that's cause BRD is ranged, and can atk in large area. and they already mentioned this in last live letter, and that they will balance it out, by 2.1.
so they will nerf brd, and buff drg.
if you parse on dummies, where none of this is any issue, the damage should be about the same for everyone.
It becomes a problem at Titan, when melee need to dodge bombs, and stuff, a lot. and loose out on DPS cause of that. And Yoshi mentioned precisely that.