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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    Also as your crit scales into late game (with full BiS gear and acc cap (plus food) your crit % will be over 40 through an entire fight). As you get more crit, the priority on SS goes down.
    Wait, what?
    over 40%?

    Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
    10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
    Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
    So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

    BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Wait, what?
    over 40%?

    Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
    10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
    Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
    So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

    BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?
    With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated
    I specifically talked about both IR AND Straight shot...

    He said 40% throughout the entire fight, not 40% for 15 seconds every minute.
    Therefore IR is a 5% buff, not a 20% buff.

    Again, 40% sustained is NOT possible with current BiS.
    Maybe you could reach 40% sustained if you ignored accuracy and dex and stacked crit on every single piece, but that would be FAR from optimal.

    Quote Originally Posted by AniCelestine View Post
    26* because you can have only 4 cross-class (You had 27 abilities listed and 5 of them were cross-class)
    Every job gets 5 cross class skills...
    Classes get 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Every job gets 5 cross class skills...
    Classes get 10.
    Either I'm blind or somethings f*ked up with my game, but I've always been able to get 4 for jobs and 8 for classes on 50. Thats the reason why I haven't botheres lvling up lancer to get BfB, cause I dislike the gameplay of lancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated
    The guy said "will be over 40 through an entire fight", there is NO WAY you can get over 40 throughout an entire fight, you would need over 600+ Crit Hit Rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Therefore IR is a 5% buff, not a 20% buff.
    No, if you Combine Barrage and Flaming Arrow with IR, it's more than 5%

    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    The guy said "will be over 40 through an entire fight", there is NO WAY you can get over 40 throughout an entire fight, you would need over 600+ Crit Hit Rate.
    I still think 40% is a right end game number. If you miss your procc and have a bad CD management, it can be harder to reach it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Wait, what?
    over 40%?

    Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
    10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
    Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
    So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

    BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?
    I have 469 and my parses says that I am in something like 32% critical rate during an entire fight. I don't think that the parser is accurate at all but is a good point to compare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Wait, what?
    over 40%?

    Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
    10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
    Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
    So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

    BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?

    What kind of "BiS" set that gives you 530 critical only? My config with Allagan bow with Devil Eggs gives 482 accuracy and 555 critical. BTW outside coil you don't need accuracy so I can just swap and go and up your crit to 594 (Buttons) or 608 (Devil Eggs). 40% and above crit is do-able, there was once my FC mate who does parasing told me that I did a 55.5% crit rate for one of the Titan EX fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    What kind of "BiS" set that gives you 530 critical only?
    Look at the date on the post.
    That was way before 2.1 when we didn't have nearly as many i90 gear choices...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Look at the date on the post.
    That was way before 2.1 when we didn't have nearly as many i90 gear choices...
    The BIS then was pretty heavily considered to be http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LNE8 so 535 crit was pretty standard.
    So crit rate would be right around 35% over the course of the fight.
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