BRD macro

[Drakkur]

Beyond that, that's exactly what a Bard does to DPS. Straighter Shot usage is an interesting question though that would take more advanced statistical analysis to determine if it's really a benefit versus using it with static timing (e.g. when you need to refresh, only).

This is also in reference to the poster above me.

I think he is trying to get at the priority we put on the Straighter Shot proc.

For me I consider a few things when I get an SS proc:
1) are my dots expiring in the next GCD?
2) If so, can I reapply both dots before and still make use of the SS proc?
3) If all of this is good then I will prioritize dots over SS proc
If it does not satisfy all of these conditions then I will SS before applying my DOTs again.

Also as your crit scales into late game (with full BiS gear and acc cap (plus food) your crit % will be over 40 through an entire fight). As you get more crit, the priority on SS goes down.

[EasymodeX]

I don't understand what you mean by this. You should only be using it when you need to refresh the buff anyways or did you mean only using it when you get the Straighter Shot buff?

The default player behavior is to use Straight Shot: (a) immediately when you get the proc in place of your next Heavy Shot, and (b) when you are about to run out of the buff. Edit: ignoring DoT priorities for a moment, because they won't occur with the first event, only subsequent cycles if you use condition (a).

However, there is a cost associated with this that is more than just the "TP" and a benefit that is less than "autocrit dps!11":

If you use SS every 8th (e.g. only when you are about to run out), then you will still consume the straighter shot buff if it's still up. Therefore, the gain of using SS immediately following a proc only occurs when the proc happens outside of the duration (which I actually don't recall atm -- was it 10s?).

In addition, the gain of using SS immediately also occurs when you get more than 1 heavier shot proc during the "HS spam within range of the 8th gcd SS" phase (because the first heavier proc will be consumed by the 8th gcd SS anyways).

However, this is not a direct # of HSs because 1 is consumed early. The GCD used to consume the heavier shot proc reduces the chance for getting consecutive procs by the 8th GCD.

In addition, you incur a TP cost of basically (70-60) * some factor of how much "wasted" overlap Straight Shot buff time happens.

Lastly, there may be an additional fringe DPS penalty for accelerating your SS cycle (by using SS immediately) if you don't get additional heavier shot procs, because it does less base potency than HS.

So there are a few things at play here. Immediate Straight Shots will certainly be a DPS gain -- but a smaller DPS gain than I think people expect, or that can be estimated at face value.

This is the type of question that is harder to model due to the interdependencies and raw RNG involved. A simulation could solve that pretty quickly though. I summon pandabearcat to solve this riddle.


Edit: TLDR: Due to (a) the reasonable chance that many heavier shot procs will be consumed anyways if you use SS every 8th, (b) the additional TP cost of using SS on proc, and (c) the high base crit% rates Bards achieve, it may be more effective to simply use SS every 8th, instead of every proc.

[viion]

I made some Changes:

/ac "Venomous Bite" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Windbite" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>

And I use any skill that ignores GCD, I also use Bloodletter as soon is restored and I start with Straight Shot for the buffs and refresh when it goes, I ve seen a huge improvement on my skills since then thank you for taking your time to explain all this

huh? Why do you force a 2.5 wait, that makes skill speed completely useless, if you had a SCH out with Selena you can get Heavy Shot recast down to like 1.5 seconds and you're forcing a whole 1 extra second onto the delay.

[AniCelestine]

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26* because you can have only 4 cross-class (You had 27 abilities listed and 5 of them were cross-class)

If you're using PC, you can easily bind 1-4(5 if hands are big enough) q,e,f,z,x,(r if you take autorun off) that's 18-22 if you use ALT, and if you add CTRL, you have more than enough for 26 (27-33) + gaming mouse, Razer Naga Hex for example which gives 6 buttons more, if you're willing to sacrifice num pad's bindings, which are useless in my opnion, and with alt and ctrl you have 18 buttons more, and that'd sum up for 45-51.

You'd need hell alot of potions and foods and more than 1 mount binded to use all of those, as a bard.

And when you've played with the same keybinds enough, 1-3h for me, you'll start to get muscle memory of what is where, then it's only 'bout thinking of what you want to/should do next, and that isn't hard either, after a while.

So no. It's not silly to say not to macro anything. For PS3 it's another thing

[Bardo]

Also as your crit scales into late game (with full BiS gear and acc cap (plus food) your crit % will be over 40 through an entire fight). As you get more crit, the priority on SS goes down.

Wait, what?
over 40%?

Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?

[Rapiso]

Wait, what?
over 40%?

Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
10% if you keep Straight Shot buff up 100% of the time.
Max uptime on Internal Release will average 5% additional crit.
So your crit rate would have to be ~628 for you to average over 40% crit rate through an entire fight.

BiS plus max crit food leaves you around 530, doesn't it?

With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated

[Bardo]

With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated

I specifically talked about both IR AND Straight shot...

He said 40% throughout the entire fight, not 40% for 15 seconds every minute.
Therefore IR is a 5% buff, not a 20% buff.

Again, 40% sustained is NOT possible with current BiS.
Maybe you could reach 40% sustained if you ignored accuracy and dex and stacked crit on every single piece, but that would be FAR from optimal.

26* because you can have only 4 cross-class (You had 27 abilities listed and 5 of them were cross-class)

Every job gets 5 cross class skills...
Classes get 10.

[viion]

With IR and Straight Shot, 40 is far from overestimated

The guy said "will be over 40 through an entire fight", there is NO WAY you can get over 40 throughout an entire fight, you would need over 600+ Crit Hit Rate.

[Rapiso]

Therefore IR is a 5% buff, not a 20% buff.

No, if you Combine Barrage and Flaming Arrow with IR, it's more than 5%

The guy said "will be over 40 through an entire fight", there is NO WAY you can get over 40 throughout an entire fight, you would need over 600+ Crit Hit Rate.

I still think 40% is a right end game number. If you miss your procc and have a bad CD management, it can be harder to reach it.

[Roy_M]

huh? Why do you force a 2.5 wait, that makes skill speed completely useless, if you had a SCH out with Selena you can get Heavy Shot recast down to like 1.5 seconds and you're forcing a whole 1 extra second onto the delay.

And if you don t have Selene s Buff? I already tried what people suggest and reducing it doesn t make the next skill or for me to add one. I don t know if it is my speed or what but it just wont go, altho when I made the arrangement skills looks faster to go so I m gratefull I read this thx