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Thread: Cnj vs Whm

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    Cnj vs Whm

    Is there ever any advantage to playing Cnj instead of Whm? For some reason I was thinking Whm was more specialized towards healing, while Cnj was better for leveling and dps...

    It seems like Whm is just... better.
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    Korbei Korobei
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    There isn't much reason to play Conjurer since additional abilities from anything other than THM and ACN are useless to the role. You get higher Mind and Piety as WHM so that gives you higher nuking capability using Cleric's Stance as well. Factor in the additional job abilities on WHM and CNJ falls well short.

    This isn't unique to CNJ/WHM. Most classes are redundant after unlocking the job.
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    I never see a reason to unequip the soulstone after level 30. The overall boost in stats outweighs everything else. I've been seeing more and more people recommend doing this for the cross-class skills, or just not bothering to take the all of 3 hours to get their secondarily class to 15 and I just don't get it.
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    I kind of find there's no reason to unequip the Soul stone for any class.
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Yeah, the Soul Crystal is too good. I doubt that even a combination of Blood for Blood, Raging Strikes, Internal Release, Mantra etc. would be capable of outdoing the stat benefits and access to the White Mage's job skills. Thyrus being bound to White Mage instead of Conjurer also more or less puts the final nail into the coffin for Conjurers until they can get the weapon from Twintania.
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    If Conjurer, arcanist, and thaumaturge are your only classes, then White Mage.

    If you have cross class like Raging Strikes, Blood for Blood, and Internal Release, you can possibly find more appeal in Conjurer until 35, at which point, White Mage's Regen is too MP efficient to pass up.

    If I recall, the stat gains from White Mage will increase compared to Conjurer, so that will make the switch far far far easier. If 30 when unlocked, it may be a few point difference.
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    Thanks a lot for all the helpful responses!
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    As Fiosha said, if you got only ACN & THM, then go for WHM, otherwise, you can go as CNJ as well. As a CNJ, you can equip self defense skill, self heal, increase crit, etc (in case you find yourself in a pinch a lot due to bad tank).
    For Job soul, you'll get ~ 20 primary stat (which worth ~ 35 hp per cure) as well as 10 on secondary stat I believe. There are 2 useful skills from WHM for you, e.g. Regen & Divine Seal. If you don't really use them much, or have no problem with MP/ keeping tank alive w/o regen then you can go try CNJ.

    The only advantage I've seen for CNJ over WHM is most likely self defense skill you can equip since WHM is dedicated only to healing with 0 self defense skill.

    p.s. Quelling Strikes is also good, but its usefulness is gone after use shroud of saint.
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    Last edited by Aedra; 11-14-2013 at 09:03 AM.