why no party accept me in coil?

[Crimson-Falcon]

pugged it fron t1 - t4 and man ppl way too much exaggerating coil difficulty

beaten all 4 without communication program and with pug group and im PS3

the only challenge is in t5

[Lelouch001]

pugged it fron t1 - t4 and man ppl way too much exaggerating coil difficulty

beaten all 4 without communication program and with pug group and im PS3

the only challenge is in t5

You beat it only because people know the fights already. Try to pug coil with everyone not knowing the fights and no communication, you won't get anywhere. The only reason you can go from 1-4 with a pug is because the content is old and a lot have experience with it now.

[Crimson-Falcon]

You beat it only because people know the fights already. Try to pug coil with everyone not knowing the fights and no communication, you won't get anywhere. The only reason you can go from 1-4 with a pug is because the content is old and a lot have experience with it now.

about 5 of them dont know what coil is look like and ps3 like me and we beat it

[Noctrin]

about 5 of them dont know what coil is look like and ps3 like me and we beat it

Yeah, i call bs. Beating turn 4 with 6 first timers and no communication will not happen. I doubt you'd even beat turn 2. Hell, i seriously doubt a good tank on ps3 will be able to properly handle OTing the ads in phase 6 of turn 4, you have to kite them while facing in spamming flash. And target each one and build agro before they destroy the healers. We had a ps3 tank and it was so unreliable to try and get them all that we had him MT the dreadnaughts since they're easier to pick up.

Coil is designed to be challenged with ilvl 80 and a few 90 pieces, doing it with ilvl70 requires flawless execution. Even for turn 1.

While i'm sure a pug with experienced people using voice chat might get to turn 4 and down it. A pug with 0 experience, ilvl70 and no voice chat -- for anyone who has beaten turn 4, i'm pretty sure you'll realize how ludicrous that sounds.

If you think pugging titan is hard, turn 4 makes titan look like a walk in the park.

Turn 4 is a massive dps check; as a tank, being able to hold agro for the dps required, is a big tank check. Phase 5 and especially 6 are a big heal check as well on top.

[Crimson-Falcon]

if i remember correctly the world first who beat t4 were full ilvl70

all i wanted to share is coil is not challenging as many ppl were exagerrate it

well believe it or not it doesnt matter voice chat is not really required

maybe in t5

but i might prove it not needed there too

btw t4 more like DPS check rather than boss fight

[PSxpert2011]

@OP, Sorry for your distressful situation.

You don't have to worry too much, not everyone is a prick as you might believe. I haven't done Coil yet and I might run into something like this.
I'd just Black List them all.

[Iymala]

Your achievements only show you've successfully mapped turn 1 and they were updated today.

[Noahlimits]

Your achievements only show you've successfully mapped turn 1 and they were updated today.

Hand caught in the cookie jar.

[GinTama]

i have full DL & Relic+1

yet wen i find a group they say we dont want any 1st runners

WTF how come i will ever play it like this?

i know its hard dungeon but its not life or death matter

and my FC play coil every week at monday and i just got my full DL cant afford wait another week

UPDATE: pugged it fron t1 - t4 and man ppl way too much exaggerating coil difficulty

beaten all 4 without communication program and with pug group and im PS3

the only challenge is in t5

then find other first runners ....

[Noctrin]

Maybe i suck, maybe everyone i know sucks, hell maybe there's some secret lever of some sort that makes shit spawn 1 at a time, but with current gear and myth caps i seriously doubt a FULL pug will down turn 4. I honestly don't think a pug can even deal with the silence rotation, tank swap and rot passing for turn 2. It would take that pug practice to do it, just like any other group. If they practice together a while and use voice chat, sure, but then it's not quite a pug anymore, is it.

Our group can carry 1 person through 1 and 2, so i'm sure for a group to get one pug and clear turn 4 is doable, if the pug is geared and has an idea of what's going on. But for anyone who says they shouted in rt, put together a full pug with no voice chat, went in and downed turn 4, they're full of crap. Period. I would not even bother with a pug past turn 1, you wanna do coil, join an FC. Plenty who raid 2 night a week for 2-3 hrs, so no matter how casual you are, you can get turn 4 done. If you can't play this game for 6-10 hrs a week, don't expect to learn coil atm. It takes our group about an hour to do turns 1-4, we have 4 groups doing this so on monday we clear those and the rest of the week we take people from all 4 groups and build one who wants to do twintania.

No FC with spots who want to? No problem, make a LS, get 7 other people, you can find a free server or pay like 3-4$ a month for a 10 spot voice chat and do it yourself, you can learn turns 1 and 2 in a few nights. Turn 4 is where the fun starts though. If you come to the forums to complain that no one will take you, make your own group, after spending weeks getting our ass handed to us, we don't really wanna change our group composition to take some random guy with us and have to spend hours teaching him our strats instead of downing it in an hour and proceeding to get our asses handed to us by twintania instead