Red Ring of Death!

[Sunarie]

I'm not trying to claim there is no delay or anything like that, and by no stretch of the imagination am I trying to get anything swept under the rug or ignored, but as indicated by what I said in that previous post, the people who are experiencing this issue don't realize the damage they are doing as well.

You say getting this issue ignored is damaging to the games potential subscriptions and longevity, but I don't think you realize just how many people are making noise about this, and a large number of those players could take steps to improve their situation without SE doing anything. If everyone is shouting at the top of their lungs that the game is broken and nobody can avoid anything, then nobody will give it a shot, which is much more damaging, than this issue not being addressed at all.

Please realize that the only way to get a response from SE is to keep bringing the issue up. Threads complaining about it that went without response for two weeks got closed because apparently "no one was experiencing the issue anymore". Additionally, if a person is unable to play a game without jumping through hoops to diagnose their connection because playing with a less than optimal connection is not really supported by this game (without getting said issues people keep bringing up).. then folks deserve to know prior to buying it. There are very few threads that actually flat out say AOEs are impossible to dodge (I recall one).. the major threads, and what people keep discussing usually go over that things can be dodged but you can't rely on your screen indicators. Which is true for the majority of the population (example of this would be Titan strat). People deserve to know that -before- spending their money.

Players are not damaging the game in this case. Yes, jumping through all the hoops may help you a bit, but it still leaves the major problem in tact... and even worse, SE might mistake it for the major problem being fixed. If SE fixed the root, all the jumping through hoops would no longer be required and the threads that are so damaging would disappear. I do get what you're trying to say, although your original post (prior to massive editing), put it in a horrible way that was basically asking for people to argue and not at all being constructive (lawl, check your connection but I'm not going to tell you what/how to check it even though most of you probably checked the basics and don't really know how to get into the more technical aspect of it). I just don't agree. The issue needs to be fixed, and pretending it can be resolved completely (instead of just bandaided) by troubleshooting your connection does just sweep the issue under the rug, even if that isn't your intention.

The AOE dodging issue has literally happened in zero other MMOs, not even when we get back to when many were on dial-up. The skill lag has happened in one I can think of, but was quickly patched and repaired. The fact of the matter is, SE is so far away from industry standards when it comes to that stuff. Players are going to complain about it, and they should. It really is not acceptable, and complaining/quitting is the only way to get it changed. I have a sinking feeling that players actually quitting is the only thing that may get them to review it in the end, but I hope it doesn't come to that as many people don't like to give things a second chance without some major publicity from the publisher.. and in the case of this game, it would a third chance. SE supposedly was already going to address this going from 1.0 to 2.0. You're asking us to understand your side, please understand ours as well in the sense that the handful of people who keep saying it's a connection issue and pointing to the players to fix it (because that is what's happening with these threads, not necessarily from you, but from a few others such as Tupsi), you are actually helping to prevent the core issue from even being addressed.