Red Ring of Death!

**whilke** · 11-13-2013 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tiggy

I agree. They were blatantly still in the AoE area in nearly every one of those instances when the cast bar and AoE marker disappeared. Too many people think the animation matters when it doesn't at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0
At 01:05 are you sure he was in the AOE when it went off? 100% sure you want to go with that answer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11JxHxunrVQ
At 01:22 are you sure the bard was still in the AOE when it went off? 100% sure you want to go with that answer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFfu0i89gpI
At 00:08 are you sure he was in the AOE when it went off? 100% sure you want to go with that answer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llzgtvZUBF4
How about at 04:08 Titan turns around to landslide, and then nothing happens until 04:13 where the landside aoe/cast bar pops up for less then one second before hitting.

Yep blatantly still in the AOE in nearly every one of those videos, OOOORRR, the game is so crappy with movement that sometimes you get out in time but still get hit.

**Tiggy** · 11-13-2013 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by whilke

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Video 1: Please read. I did say that the first video here showed a problem, but that doesn't prove without a shadow of a doubt its a game problem. There are numerous local influences that could have caused that.

Video 2: Yes he was in the zone. Just because he was clearing the event horizon at the moment the circle disappeared did not mean he was clear. He was too late.

Video 3: See the description for video 2.

Video 4: CLEARLY this was a lag spike and not shitty game code. This is no different than lag causing people to teleport around. This doesn't prove a single thing for this debate.

As I said initially. Only that one video showed an actual problem. If you are not completely out of the zone before it begins to fade away then you are not in the clear and you will get hit. As video 2 and 3 clearly showed.

**Blarp** · 11-13-2013 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Genesiser

I just watched every one of those videos

Then the AOE animation needs to be 100% synced with the application of damage otherwise the game feels disjointed hence the complaints.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGSnnof--LY

As an example. Yes, the player could have moved a few MS earlier, but she was very clearly out of the AOE and was still hit.

**Genesiser** · 11-13-2013 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Blarp

Then the AOE animation needs to be 100% synced with the application of damage otherwise the game feels disjointed hence the complaints.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGSnnof--LY

As an example. Yes, the player could have moved a few MS earlier, but she was very clearly out of the AOE and was still hit.

I agree with you, especially if it would clear up the confusion that many of the player base has concerning why they are/aren't getting hit by aoe moves.

**Sapphic** · 11-14-2013 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Blarp

Not saying things can't be improved. But those ive seen with boss targetted have still been in the AE when the cast bar finished on the boss. Thats what dictates whether they get hit or not. Not their position when the ability actually fires off. Which there can be a delay between the bosses cast timer ending and the spell/ability effect playing which gives many the false impression they were safe.

**stardrifter** · 11-12-2013 01:54 PM

I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but the OP is right. There is also more to it other than internet connection. People will also experience delays with some PC setups. If your having a delay problem might want to try lowering your graphic settings. There is a lot your PC is doing when it gets the info from SE's servers about monster AI. this is where your HD/RAM/GPU come into play.

**Toranja** · 11-12-2013 01:56 PM

I like to think it is my old PS3's fault, because I get a lag spike everytime at the beginning of a battle. I'm a tank, so yeah, that sucks.

**Edenholt** · 11-12-2013 02:00 PM

This is the first game in which I MUST use a software (battleping) to get over the lag/delay. I'm even in a different continent now (I live in Norway and now I'm in Brazil for more 2 months at work) and I need the software to not have any delay. In Norway I have 30MB internet and here I'm using 10MB alone, no wi-fi and no download on the side. People in my Fc from England, Netherlands and Ukraine (to mention some examples) complain about the lag/delay, people with whom I've been RAIDING for over two years since our old game, now they also have to either use the same software as me or not do content (dungeons). It's frustrating for people who are used to one shot Raid Bosses dying for aoe's.

Don't come and tell me there is no problem with the game. Specially if you live in USA, as both EU and NA servers are located in CANADA.

**Duuude007** · 11-12-2013 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Edenholt

This is the first game in which I MUST use a software (battleping) to get over the lag/delay...
Don't come and tell me there is no problem with the game.

A 3rd party app can fix your issue instantly, and you STILL blame SE?
How does that even remotely make sense?

Please, explain, as in my head when a kitchen is full of rats, asking for a new waiter, on rollerblades, will not make my meal any better.

**Edenholt** · 11-12-2013 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Duuude007

A 3rd party app can fix your issue instantly, and you STILL blame SE?
How does that even remotely make sense?

Please, explain, as in my head when a kitchen is full of rats, asking for a new waiter, on rollerblades, will not make my meal any better.

I'm not pretending I have any technical knowledge. I never needed any sort of latency reducer for the other games I played. Before FFXIV I used to play RIFT, was main tank with a solid raid schedule. Never had any problem but the eventual connection issues everybody's subject to. Then I come to FFXIV and have this issue. I call my internet provider, spend half an hour making tests with the tech support, testing other games, downloads and everything and they say my connection seems to be alright.

If i were bashing on the game for silly reasons like "nothing to do" or "i want more end game content" I'd understand people saying the problem's all on my side. But I honestly can't seem to being able to blame anybody but SE. Now, I like this game enough to have subbed for months and even subscribe to third party app in order to improve MY QoL, but it doesn't mean I won't keep asking for some fix from SE's side. I'm sorry if it offend you, as it seems to not be an issue you're facing in-game, but for me and many others Eu player (can't talk about NA, as the only NA we have in the FC are exactly the ones who NEVER have any problem with lag/delay) it's very bothersome.

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