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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Check your PC.
    Check your Home Network.
    Check your ISP.
    Check with SE.

    In that order. If you choose to skip a step, nobody will take you seriously.
    1. Check your PC= (general advice for average computer users and those who think the videocard is the problem, most average users are to hard headed to do these steps and is what will be the basis of most problems)
    Ensure you have virus protection THERE ARE GOOD FREE ONES!
    Run Malwarebytes free
    Run ADWcleaner free
    Visit http://www.malwareremoval.com/forum/ if you have questions

    2. Check your home network/wifi
    Connect with an ethernet connection straight to the modem, (requires modem restart) test AOE dodging/ping

    Check your ISP if problems still persist
    Call them and talk to them about your latency. They will give you a general modem checkup/check your settings/run a tracert and possibly identify something that they can fix.

    THEN blame Canada.
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    Last edited by Iloce; 11-14-2013 at 08:52 AM.

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    I just watched every one of those videos and the same thing kept happening. They were all not out of the aoe in time. They were close to being out of the ring before it disappears, but not actually out of it. If that is what people have been talking about this whole time, then they have it wrong... Avoiding an aoe has nothing to do with the *animation* or when the enemy does a weapon swing/throw/wahtever, but instead all that matters is getting out of the circle/cone/rectangle *before* the cast bar ends or *before* the circle/cone/rectangle goes away. In other words, if there is a circle you have to get out of and the boss animation takes 5 seconds longer than when the circle goes away, it doesn't matter - you will get hit by the move if you didn't get out of the circle before the circle goes away. I've always wondered why I never experienced issues with what everyone complains about, and it turns out that people are just not moving out of whatever they need to in time. It's as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    I just watched every one of those videos and the same thing kept happening. They were all not out of the aoe in time.
    Want to know something cool?

    I frequently don't move out of the AoE "in time", as you describe it anyway.

    However, if I Bio before the attack animation connects, it misses me. If I don't, I get hit.

    Imagine that.

    Must not be intended that way, huh?

    Next time you're dodging something you know you can dodge, cast something while in it. Anything. Doesn't matter what. Don't cast anything afterward, but still dodge the ability. Tell me what happens.

    Freaking blind as a bat, I swear. Willful ignorance is not an ignorance I can tolerate.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 11-13-2013 at 05:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    Want to know something cool?

    I frequently don't move out of the AoE "in time", as you describe it anyway.

    However, if I Bio before the attack animation connects, it misses me. If I don't, I get hit.

    Imagine that.

    Must not be intended that way, huh?

    Next time you're dodging something you know you can dodge, cast something while in it. Anything. Doesn't matter what. Don't cast anything afterward, but still dodge the ability. Tell me what happens.

    Freaking blind as a bat, I swear. Willful ignorance is not an ignorance I can tolerate.
    How is it willful ignorance? The videos they showed was showing them not getting out of the aoe in time, so they got hit. If I do as they did, I get hit. If I get out of the circle before the circle goes away, then I don't get hit. If I am in the circle as it goes away, but out of the area for when the animation of a swipe or rock throw or whatever is there, I get hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    How is it willful ignorance?
    Because it makes the (rather large) assumption that the red zone is an indicator of whether or not you get hit. It isn't, as my instant-cast testing indicates.

    Suggesting otherwise is defending the game code as it currently is. Sorry dude, but you're wrong and you've ignored COUNTLESS posts of evidence to the contrary.

    In other words, willful ignorance. You're ignorant and choosing to remain so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I agree. They were blatantly still in the AoE area in nearly every one of those instances when the cast bar and AoE marker disappeared. Too many people think the animation matters when it doesn't at all.
    Oy, read already!

    Next time you're dodging something you know you can dodge, cast something while in it. Anything. Doesn't matter what. Don't cast anything afterward, but still dodge the ability. Tell me what happens.
    Next time you're dodging something you know you can dodge, cast something while in it. Anything. Doesn't matter what. Don't cast anything afterward, but still dodge the ability. Tell me what happens.
    Next time you're dodging something you know you can dodge, cast something while in it. Anything. Doesn't matter what. Don't cast anything afterward, but still dodge the ability. Tell me what happens.
    Hell, cast it on the move even.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 11-13-2013 at 06:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
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    Look at the second video, near the end the player moves from the aoe when the cast bar is at 50% and is out of it before it hits 80% and still gets hit. How damn soon do you need to move out of the aoe if you're out before the cast bar is done and still get hit? Might want to watch the video again and see that the problem clearly wasn't because the player didn't move in time. Or you could just keeping typing crap and trying to justify this problem by blaming the player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelouch001 View Post
    Look at the second video, near the end the player moves from the aoe when the cast bar is at 50% and is out of it before it hits 80% and still gets hit. How damn soon do you need to move out of the aoe if you're out before the cast bar is done and still get hit? Might want to watch the video again and see that the problem clearly wasn't because the player didn't move in time. Or you could just keeping typing crap and trying to justify this problem by blaming the player.
    You're right, that guy was out of it. But at the same time he was experiencing delay on everything so I would expect him to have issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelouch001 View Post
    Or you could just keeping typing crap and trying to justify this problem by blaming the player.
    This was the only video that actually showed the problem in that whole list above. Out of that whole list only one genuinely good example, and you have absolutely no idea what kind of computer and network situation that particular player has. You can't act as if that single video proves something when all the others couldn't. It is circumstantial and nothing more than a reason to do some local trouble shooting and perhaps if that doesn
    t pan out a post to the technical forums. For you, as the person who didn't make that video, you have no clear information that this proves anything more than at that exact moment that particular player had issues. However, all the other videos shown in the post clearly show bad players not getting out of the AoE on time. You can not put that one single video on a pedastool and act like it means anything. You sir are the one "typing crap and trying to justify this problem."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    I just watched every one of those videos and the same thing kept happening. They were all not out of the aoe in time. They were close to being out of the ring before it disappears, but not actually out of it. If that is what people have been talking about this whole time, then they have it wrong...
    I agree. They were blatantly still in the AoE area in nearly every one of those instances when the cast bar and AoE marker disappeared. Too many people think the animation matters when it doesn't at all.
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