Holy Spam in Wanderer's Palace Speed Runs

[TurnBased]

So I've done a few Speed Runs in WP so far. Runs were pretty good, and we would finish each run at 17 - 20 minutes. The BLM in my party told me that we could do it faster if I were to spam Holy on the mobs.

Problem is, I'm too busy healing the tank in order to spam Holy. I can pull off two Holys if tank is topped off and with regen(1st Holy with Swiftcast) but by then, tank will be at 500 HP and I'll need to Benediction him to stay alive. If there are like 4 enemies left, then I can Holy spam to finish them off, but the BLM was expecting me to Holy Spam from the beginning which again, I think is impossible considering how fast the tanks HP drops. He tells me that other WHMs are able to spam Holy and that it's possible for me to do it with my gear.

Just wondering if there's something I need to be doing, or if Holy Spam is only feasible when the tank has better gear ie. DL with a couple of i90s(if this is the case, then that BLM was expecting too much from me).

[Brises]

Holy is good to use selectively, not spamming. It is a mp drain. Use holy when the flan adds spawn on the second boss... just once per group. It greatly speeds up that fight, and I have never come close to running out of mp.

[One_WingedAngel]

Holy is good to use selectively

Holy is good all of the time, if in doubt cast holy. By default I have 3 holy go off after regen is on tank on every single pull, depending on how good your tank is you can get an other 3-4 holy in after. Bard is more for the tank to flash than for whm mana, shroud and relativity infrequent pull really give you enough time to regen to full just before fight. The reason for the first 3 holy is the stun make your life so much easier, the regen is more than enough to keep tank up.

[Thunderz]

if you set yourself up properly you can holy on every pull and DD on boss

in WP WHM is bawz

[Brises]

if you set yourself up properly you can holy on every pull and DD on boss

in WP WHM is bawz

You mean if the tank is set up properly? It won't work with just any group.

[TurnBased]

^there's Mages Ballad for MP concerns

MP isn't an issue for me, it's DPSing while the tanks HP is dropping like a fly.

[Bridgeburner]

^there's Mages Ballad for MP concerns

hehe, story time.

Entered a WP SR with PLD, WHM (me), BRD, BLM.

PLD leads by grabbing first two berries, grabs the birds, runs to the top of the stairs. No problem. Divine Seal, Cure2 to near top, Regen, Cleric Stance, Swiftcast+Holy to Holy and all the bugs are gone. Cleric off, settle back to healing, pull clear.

PLD picks up next room of birds, slime/pugil in hall, patrolling berry, hits right corner to tank it up. Divine Seal again, Cure2 to top, Regen, swiftcast+Medica 2 (# of mobs is high, so adding double regen helps smooth the damage/ease healing). Ask for Ballad, as I'm approaching 1.5k mp remaining.

The BRD refuses on grounds that it lowers his dps too much and I'm using Holy wrong, I shouldn't cast it at all, it's too much of an MP drain. BRD proceeds to stand left of the hallway entrance (we went to the right corner, he went left) and begins lecturing me about how he's DPS, and DPS's job is to do damage, WHM is only there to heal, I shouldn't always ask for Ballad, I need to learn my class.

I respond by calmly counting down in party chat with each Cure 2: 800, 600, 400, 200, 0. Benediction, Shroud. 600, 400, 200, OOM. Tank dies shortly after. BRD hasn't been doing damage all this time, he's busy typing.

BRD starts giving me a ton of shit for letting the tank die. I pop Sprint, scoot around to the chest to trigger bugs, then run to the BRD and /dance. I die. Bugs make short work of him, too.

Huge /party fight ensues where BRD goes on to instruct me further about how to play, while the PLD tries pointing out that I can't heal without mana. I calmly reply that the BRD caused our wipe by running his mouth instead of popping a useful party skill and/or doing damage. Add that I don't really have time for him, so will not talk further in /p.

BRD responds "lol good no more headaches". Rest of the run goes quietly with me doing nothing but heals to conserve MP properly. I was the good little WHM our BRD dreamed of.

We finished in a speedy 48 minutes. Second boss took four waves of adds. Very choice.

... Some people.

[FinagleABagel]

You need an adequately geared tank. Other than that, use E4E from cross class, SS, and regen for a mitigation combo to buy you time.

If that doesn't do it, then your tank isn't geared enough. If that pulls aggro, your tank is probably geared enough but isn't good enough to handle all the AoE.

[Thunderz]

This is always assuming you have a PT set up that is optimal for Speed running

I always run WP with FC pplz and its crazy fun on whm

(The more geared the tank the more holy's you can go through - I typically spam holy till the thrash pack is done)

[NOBLETROLL]

Watch that the tank is using mitigation as well, rampart alone usually isn't enough.