Paladin is the better tank, but Warrior is the better class

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Never ever use Awareness. Because boss skills don't crit only melee attacks crit for at most 1,000dmg. And there is a hidden bug on Awareness (TESTED) it prevents all incoming heals from being criticals. So you are pretty much left to use Featherfoot, Provoke, Internal Release, Convalescence and Second Wind. Mantra is only +5% area healing and has too long a CD. If Awareness didn't have the heal crit prevention bug I would have taken it over Second Wind.

Interesting. I'll check this out.

This. You aren't trying to DPS, you're trying to build hate, and it doesn't do that effectively. Some bosses are very affected by pacification but most fully resist. It's just a GCD worth of time that you're falling behind in raising the hate ceiling.

We're all trying to dps, that's why we weave in circle of scorns on single target. Not to mention, Swipe allows us to stay flush on TP easier, and that's important for when something else comes into play.

A Warrior in the same gear will have 25% more hitpoints than a Paladin. That is the entire point of Defiance. A 5,000hp Paladin is comparable to a 6,250hp Warrior. A 7,000hp PLD would have 8,750hp as a WAR, assuming the same gear. It is slightly more due to WAR having slightly higher base VIT... and then it will be slightly lower, because you're not gearing the same as a PLD... are you?

And yet, I feel safer on my 5.5 Paladin than I do on my 6800 Warrior. I mean, I know you're saying what se's stance is, but I'd rather be on paladin.

But to give credit to those who dislike Shield Swipe, I too personally feel that a system where the ability would be off the GCD and with recast timer of for example 6 - 10 seconds wouldn't be bad. It would add interaction to the actions and also serve as special move interrupting ability (which, yes, the pacification actually does), with the same pre-requirement of successfully blocking an attack (which again contributes somewhat to clever use of Bulwark)

-Me

This, this, this. I've wanted this for a while. We all know we'd bury it in our Halone macro, but it would be great. Off the GCD, however, it's no longer a gain in TP, but whatever.

Under normal circumstances Paladin will not be TP starved unless he overspams Shield Lob, Riot Blade or unless the fight spans through a time of 15 minutes of continuous back to back GCD usage.

Yes it is true that warrior does more DPS than Paladin, but more threat? No, cause he has to maintain Maim, SE combo which do not have Enmity increase. Maim only buffs the warrior, and only Paladins and Warriors benefit from SE debuff.

He does "more threat" because he can do more threat. A warrior having trouble with threat will seldom switch out of Butcher's Block and walk away from a paladin in the same gear having the same trouble with threat. He also has Unchained to pop early in the fight to get a strong hate lead. (Paladin has Fight or Flight, a smaller gain, but no resource cost. Warrior has Berserk, A larger gain with, strategically placed, little resource cost)

Warrior is not the better class, warrior isn't the harder class. It is just an undertuned class, refuse to believe it is as much as believing Santa Clause will fill your socks instead of your parents.

No, Warrior is better designed, and harder. Sorry, Paladin can get away with 3 buttons on single target, but warrior can and should do so much more, because that extra dps contributes to more self healing. It is flawed in its design though, because it simply does not tank as well is a paladin.

Flash is better. More TP regeneration, more threat.

You should be using Flash every time you're capped on MP in boss fights you feel TP is going to become an issue. I'm sorry to tell you, but the only benefit Shield Swipe presents is a net-gain in DPS, and even then, it's incredibly small compared to just the 3-combo.

Small compared to Halone, but a gain on TP, and huge compared to Flash. Save Flash for things like Mountain buster, or when the OT has an add on garuda.

At least Warriors will always look the coolest.

Them are fighting words! I'm literally a white knight! You may be able to hit harder than me, but we both know I can mitigate your damage better!