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  1. #21
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Back when I was first starting to speed-run CM, I'd often get blamed when I couldn't heal the MT because I was focus-bombing myself from having 5-7+ adds on me that no one seemed to see fit to pick up. <_<

    Though I'm leveling a DPS right now, and my pickup is amazing on my Dragoon. Anytime we're in a 4-man dungoun and I see the mob going for the healer, I'll po Blood For Blood and Internal Release, three-hit combo him with a garunteed crit on the third hit (Bit of a waste on DPS since internal will still be up, but worth it for the threat.), and peel hate while deactivating blood for blood from myself and activating Keen Flurry and Featherfoot. I doubt any of the healers I run with notice that I do this, they just notice that I'm self-healing / not taking much damage, but I'm always happy when I can let my healer focus on targets that aren't beating their face in.
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  2. #22
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    More than the blame game lately the thing that bugs me most is people telling me what to do and when. Like if like 4 people die from being morons then i\\'m trying to get things under control since we lost the second healer too and while i am doing this my chat box is spammed with "Res me" "Rez" "Rez" "Healer Rez" "Do you even have swiftcast?" "Rez healer" "Healer use LB" "Rez" "Rez" "Healer do you have swiftcast or not?" "Rez"
    Lol! This makes me laugh. I\\\\\\'ve had my share of deaths in end game content so it feels pretty good when I can outlast everyone and manage to keep the party from failing. Sometimes denying people a Rez is what it takes.
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  3. #23
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    kaden's Avatar
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    Alistaire Elmdore
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I doubt any of the healers I run with notice that I do this, they just notice that I'm self-healing / not taking much damage, but I'm always happy when I can let my healer focus on targets that aren't beating their face in.
    the WHM's should also know their own defensive abilities. If a mob is in their face and they are being hit, they can use water > Swiftcast > Sleep or just Water > Sleep since water gives a what, 6 second? bind effect and if the mob can be slept well then there ya go. you got at least 20 seconds of safety and the other mob(s) may be dead by the time it wakes up. you can repeat it a few times with dwindling results as resistance builds up but by then the pt should be already on that mob.
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  4. #24
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    LaLiLuLeLo's Avatar
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    Jack Torrence
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I've had a healer that couldn't quite keep up before. I usually don't get onto them, because I also heal and I know how crazy it can get if a tank doesn't keep all the hate. People need to wait it out before deciding someone is inadequate at their job.

    I've been blamed for everyone dying as a tank when I knew it wasn't true, but there's been a time when it was true, so I know both sides.
    Everyone gets a little defensive because they all assume it's a little their fault, I think.

    I wanted to start being a dps just so no one would yell at me lol.
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  5. #25
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    Aphrini's Avatar
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    Aphrini Vanadette
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    while i am doing this my chat box is spammed with "Res me" "Rez" "Rez" "Healer Rez" "Do you even have swiftcast?" "Rez healer" "Healer use LB" "Rez" "Rez" "Healer do you have swiftcast or not?" "Rez" That is VERY irritating when i'm trying to concentrate and avoid a wipe.
    Lol had this just last night, was helping a friend with Garuda story with a PUG and the MNK died in the last phase of his own doing for not moving, he kept spamming over and over REZ!, REZ!, REZ!, I just ignored him at this point the group was not doing so hot in the end we are winning and about to win I start casting Raise he says "NO REZ just win!" my tank was full hp the blm was full hp I got him up and everyone won ALIVE. STFU you want to do it, you pick up the shiny staff and do it yourself, while I am your healer, fasten your seatbelts, keep all hands and arms inside the ride at all times and enjoy the F$#@ing ride. Phrini knows best k thankz bai.
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  6. #26
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    Zormikal's Avatar
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    Lady Squirts
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kryzen View Post
    If you had enough people yell and complain to you that your healing is sub-par often enough to the point where it drives you to make a thread post, wouldn't you think they might be on to something?
    On too something perhaps they are onto attacking mob that tank isnt on .
    Or maybe the dps is onto something when he pulls agro instead of tank.
    Or maybe someone is onto something when they break sleep
    you could be onto something
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  7. #27
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    CalvatE's Avatar
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    Lil Muffins
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by LaLiLuLeLo View Post
    I've had a healer that couldn't quite keep up before. I usually don't get onto them, because I also heal and I know how crazy it can get if a tank doesn't keep all the hate. People need to wait it out before deciding someone is inadequate at their job.

    I've been blamed for everyone dying as a tank when I knew it wasn't true, but there's been a time when it was true, so I know both sides.
    Everyone gets a little defensive because they all assume it's a little their fault, I think.

    I wanted to start being a dps just so no one would yell at me lol.
    A healer that couldn't quite keep up? As in, you died because insufficient heals? Both a Tank and Heal fault. Healer couldn't put out the numbers, but only until death Tank's would realize they couldn't cut a mob that big.

    I'll point a finger at a Tank when aggro just keeps being lost when I heal. Last night I had a Warrior who seemed as if they were only able to hold aggro on one target (I'm not too knowledgeable on Tank works so I'm not sure what they were doing), I could point fingers to the WAR because it seemed that way.
    But I've also rolled with a PLD friend and he couldn't keep up because of one dreaded thing... I had a relic, he didn't. Despite how much he tried to pull aggro, we were going neck to neck - I was keeping him alive and he was struggling to keep aggro. The differences in gear can be astonishing. He said it was hell everytime he had to party with people who had a relic.

    Though of course any healer who spams Holy or something and then blames for aggro.. that's just their fault lol!~

    As a DPS though you will get yelled at
    I don't think it's people getting defensive it was their fault, it's the opposite. People getting offensive that you should be doing things X way when we should be adapting to another's play styles, not fighting another.
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  8. #28
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    Conradus's Avatar
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    Conradus Leviathan
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zormikal View Post
    How many times have you been told you sux at healing. Its your fault we wiped.
    Etc..,...

    I just now tell them uh what I dont understand you. I dont speak A$$hole?
    The logic is very simple. We lost because we died. The healer is supposed to keep us from dying. Therefore, we lost because the healer sucks.
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  9. #29
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    Asdamine's Avatar
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    The logic is very simple. We lost because we died. The healer is supposed to keep us from dying. Therefore, we lost because the healer sucks.
    The logic is very simple. We lost because dps over aggro and got damaged. The tank is supposed to keep aggro and dodge AoEs. Therefore, we lost because the group sucks.

    Fact is, a wipe can caused by many things, don't just place the blame finger toward the healer.
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  10. #30
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    Aphrini's Avatar
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    Aphrini Vanadette
    World
    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Actually it's never ever the healer...ever.
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