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  1. #41
    Player
    Techro's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Loken Kaiser
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    Lamia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Yea the idea is nice, Basically different dances can debuff the enemy instead of CDs that mitigate damage to you. "The Anti-Tank", if you will and i will . The cds we currently have are all defensive buffs of sorts, what if the a dance made the mob miss instead of raising your dodge per say, or a dance that makes the mob weak thus dealing less damage. granted this would have to be coupled with defensive cooldowns also in which one can grab from other classes but I really like this idea. It would also be a skillful tank rather than a press all the buttons tank
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  2. #42
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    Kitru's Avatar
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Techro View Post
    Yea the idea is nice, Basically different dances can debuff the enemy instead of CDs that mitigate damage to you.
    All that it would become is an off-tank (and a hugely overpowered one at that, if the debuffs are global; you'd be doubling the mitigation of the MT while also giving the rest of the group tank grade mitigation) or a completely worthless tank (if the debuffs *only* apply to attacks against you *and* they're AoE instead of ST, you could be decent but, as soon as an enemy is outside of the range of your debuffs, you're dead). Honestly, if you're going to do everything that would be required in order for a tank that uses debuffs as its mitigation mechanism, you're really just doing the exact same thing that other tanks do but doing it in the most circuitous manner possible.
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  3. #43
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    An evasion tank relies on dodge/parry/block.
    Dodge/parry/block currently use RNG.
    If possible and balancable, we'd like an Evasion tank.

    ==> Make Dodge/parry/block not quite RNG?

    1. Treat each chance mitigation type as its own resource.
    2. These resources build with time and failed attempts (for most classes, whereas Dancer could always do something different, such as increasing dodge resource with consecutive small dodges or whatnot), and have a higher chance of use under higher urgency, and consume resource according to mitigation caused.
    3. In this sense, they become a CD suite of their own, and can be manipulated and modulated by abilities within Evasion tank classes.

    (If you build up / still have enough dodge resource, let's say "rating", at the time of a would-be one-shot, it will automatically dodge that at massive cost to mean dodge chance after, which is gradually regained.)

    The "skill"-based tanking of a Dancer would then be two-fold, precise timing, and knowing which mitigation resources to burn and how far.

    ...give parry the ability to affect attacks aimed through, even if not at, you, and suddenly dps have tank-aid mitigation as well.

    Edit: Sorry for the thread necro. I was following through links based on related terms, and somehow didn't realize how old this before posting...
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-12-2014 at 05:28 PM.

  4. #44
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Character
    Pomelo Elmbrook
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I would honestly hate if DNC was Tank...anything but Tank. Please.
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  5. #45
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    Character
    Killabye Strife
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    I know this is a fantasy game and all but I have a hard enough time with dps, if some guy wearing dance clothes is running the raid shit will go to hell. I guess that's ok for all the dps that annoy me, wouldn't wanna dps for them though
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  6. #46
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    Fue's Avatar
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    Character
    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    Dancer tank would certainly be interesting. Manderville your way to victory!
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    i know this is a joke but
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