can the dps threads please stop?


can the dps threads please stop?

For the OP and the other newer healers that have posted here, keep in mind you are doing lower lvl dungeons often with players who themselves have just started. It is ok to have things go a little bumpy and it is also ok to stop and talk things over, if you are getting too much hate maybe it is not the tank maybe it is you, although almost always it is a little bit of both. Take time and talk to the tank if you need to so you can sort it out and keep playing it is expected to have the tank or healer still be learning at those levels. As far as DF I personally find it silly to assume every run is a speed run even if you personally are going for that reason if you really are get 4 of your FC and do a SP or FC run. Just have fun doing your role regardless if you are DPS holy or healing the Tank who is still gearing up. No need for LeET play in a DF run lol.

What??! Nobody should be expecting you to DPS on the nail for Ifrit. People just over-do it sometimes. Especially the CNJ/WHM.I'm a new player myself. Playing a healer, and I'm really enjoying it. I've done the first three dungeons and the Ifrit trial, all as heals, and I plan to continue.
It's been tough learning to balance DPS with heals though. I've only been openly yelled at a couple of times for being too slow at switching to damage (especially on Ifrit's nail). I think I'll get better at it with practice.
Yeah - this looks like a case of DPS being undergeared for the fight and looking for a scapegoat. I've run Ifrit HM over 100 times to help FC and LS groups, and I've never needed to DPS the nails...
To elaborate on my experience as a new player, I felt the DPS comments aimed at me were valid.
In the second dungeon I ran, we had a DPS player who clearly wanted a speed run. He complained that we were slow, and pulled extra packs of monsters. He indicated that I had both the time and mana to cast more than just Thunder and Aero, and while he wasn't polite about it, he was technically correct, so I've tried to step up my damage contribution since then.
On the Ifrit Trial, I was told that when the Nail appeared I needed to stop healing and only DPS, otherwise we would wipe. I failed to do this the first couple times (resulting in wipes), because I was too busy trying to keep everybody healed up from all the AOE damage. What that taught me was how to prioritize my heals (the Thaumaturge, for example, needed healing ASAP, because he couldn't take more than one fire breath attack without dying), and things went smoother once I was able to get a full DPS rotation on the Nail right away.
Otherwise, things have gone well. I like healing in this game, and I haven't had any complaints about my healing performance. I've only had a couple rough patches with wipes. Of course, there were aforementioned Ifrit wipes. And I also caused a couple wipes when the DPS speed runner pulled too many monsters, and I wasn't fast enough with my heals to keep up (though I eventually managed to succeed at that too). Anyway, I'm willing to take the blame for and learn from those mistakes, and I feel like I'm getting better at healing as a result.

dont take blame when its not yours.
ifrit group used you as a scapegoat
speedrunner was stupidly impatient.

@B_Nighteye:
No you shouldn't give that DPS player one ounce of credibility. Scholars and WHMs are good DPS when time allows - especially Scholars. DoTs aren't going to help much on the Ifrit nails because you have a short period of time in which to do them. Holy is only good against multiple targets - same goes for Bane.
Single target spike in a short period is a DPS thing. Groups that are asking for Healer assistance on nails need to run a BLM/SMN for the LB or get better gear. You can't contribute well to that.
Now for Ifrit? Absolutely you should DoT him up and cost Stone II when reasonable.
Not sure if everyone is missing it (unless I'm mistaken), but keep in mind that he is talking about the trial fight at level 20 when giving advice, not hard mode.To elaborate on my experience as a new player, I felt the DPS comments aimed at me were valid.
On the Ifrit Trial, I was told that when the Nail appeared I needed to stop healing and only DPS, otherwise we would wipe. I failed to do this the first couple times (resulting in wipes), because I was too busy trying to keep everybody healed up from all the AOE damage. What that taught me was how to prioritize my heals (the Thaumaturge, for example, needed healing ASAP, because he couldn't take more than one fire breath attack without dying), and things went smoother once I was able to get a full DPS rotation on the Nail right away.

me too, started a CNJ to help FC get through dungeons and after playing a few dungeons I had a whole new respect for healers. All classes are important though, they each serve a purpose in the grand scheme of things.Started playing role of healer and have gotten to lvl 24 with groups made from use of duty.
I always thought healing would be easy job. Glad to say it is not.
After reading many posts here about healing and also do some dps. I decided to be the damage some but keep grp alive healer. Not easy to do but with practice im sure ill get it soon enough.
With duty you still meet ppl new to game so gear and knowledge not so good which makes role harder and with every grp comes a different challenge.
Point : Healing is not easy add dps even more challenging respect all healers in game !
Zormikal send me a /tell if you need help with dungeon runs
Last edited by johnbeck1000; 11-14-2013 at 03:50 AM.
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. As far as DF I personally find it silly to assume every run is a speed run even if you personally are going for that reason if you really are get 4 of your FC and do a SP or FC run. Just have fun doing your role regardless if you are DPS holy or healing the Tank who is still gearing up. No need for LeET play in a DF run lol.








