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  1. #1
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    Celestia's Avatar
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    Frozen Shade
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 50

    Fishing needs more value

    Fishing used to be a job worth pursuing. It went hand in hand with alchemy. Turning fish into crystals and shards was awesome. I understand that it was potential problems for RMT's, but now fishing is only good for a handful of cooking synths and completing the log. I am requesting that more value is placed on fishing and maybe go back to 1.0 style where we can synth the fish into useful items.
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    LlenCoram's Avatar
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    Llen Coram
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 100
    This please. It's killing me.
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    Accolades's Avatar
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    Final Boss
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It was stated many times that fishing was not intended to contribute to the games economy in a substantial way. They wanted fishing to be an escape or a relaxing part of the game. A mini game if you will, but I agree this is not a mini game I want to play nor is it any fun. It's down right boring and its a level to 50 job and forget it for me.
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    Violet Drakarys
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    Twintania
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Completly supporting this. Having time to implent useless things is just useless. Don't waste time to implent things of which 99% of the Community won't pick up. Nobody enjoys to waste time doing useless things that don't pay off. With it's current state fishing is meant to waste away.
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    Esprit Libre
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I love fishing. I love it alot. But it definitely needs more utility, at least for the high-end fishing. As far as end-game fishing goes, the only big game level 50 fish that has any utility at all is the Mahi-Mahi, and you're better off farming easy-peasy Red Coral if money is what you're after.

    There's nothing more fun than catching a ginormous HQ level 50 two-star fish with some epic prehistoric name and appearance....and there is nothing more disheartening than selling it for a couple gil because nobody cares that you have a Giant Donko.
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    Gurpsmeister's Avatar
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    Mayumi Shiro
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    The ease of which fishing would be to bot instantly says that this will never happen. Working as intended, do other gathering stuff. Fishing will not be more than it is now.
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  7. #7
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    Llen Coram
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurpsmeister View Post
    The ease of which fishing would be to bot instantly says that this will never happen. Working as intended, do other gathering stuff. Fishing will not be more than it is now.
    "Because of the possibility of something bad happening, this has been reduced to being absolutely mindless and 100% worse than it ever was in 1.0. Suck it up, stop playing the class you enjoy, and do other stuff. Enjoy the fact that you're being forced to not play a class you once found fun."

    That about sum it up? The risk of something being botted should not affect the gameplay, nor should it dictate the way something is played. BTN and MNRs can be as easily botted, and they collect important materials. Why weren't there as neutered as we were? As it is, the current mechanics punish the players, not the bots.

    In 1.0 we were useful. Fish became shards and crystals, dark matter could be fished up, and more fish did more things. We've been neutered, and we're to just suck it up because, "Oh no, bots might do bad stuff!"? In case you haven't been playing recently, bots are already doing bad stuff. I think the possibility of a bunch of bots making shards is far outweighed by people actively hacking logged in accounts to steal millions of gil.

    The simple fact is Yoshi and his crew were and are still being lazy with this class. We were more in 1.0. We were more in XI. Now we're nothing. This class absolutely needs more value, because right now everything about it screams lazy.
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    Last edited by LlenCoram; 11-13-2013 at 01:45 AM.

  8. #8
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    Gurpsmeister's Avatar
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    "Because of the possibility of something bad happening, this has been reduced to being absolutely mindless and 100% worse than it ever was in 1.0. Suck it up, stop playing the class you enjoy, and do other stuff. Enjoy the fact that you're being forced to not play a class you once found fun."

    That about sum it up? The risk of something being botted should not affect the gameplay, nor should it dictate the way something is played. BTN and MNRs can be as easily botted, and they collect important materials. Why weren't there as neutered as we were? As it is, the current mechanics punish the players, not the bots.

    In 1.0 we were useful. Fish became shards and crystals, dark matter could be fished up, and more fish did more things. We've been neutered, and we're to just suck it up because, "Oh no, bots might do bad stuff!"? In case you haven't been playing recently, bots are already doing bad stuff. I think the possibility of a bunch of bots making shards is far outweighed by people actively hacking logged in accounts to steal millions of gil.

    The simple fact is Yoshi and his crew were and are still being lazy with this class. We were more in 1.0. We were more in XI. Now we're nothing. This class absolutely needs more value, because right now everything about it screams lazy.
    Like it or not, what it was it is no longer and isn't likely to ever be again. It is exactly as they described it would be in 2.0 and they've said on more than one occasion that it's precisely how it's suppose to work. This is a take it or leave it sort of situation I fear, so yes. Suck it up or let it lie.
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  9. #9
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    Drak Thar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurpsmeister View Post
    The ease of which fishing would be to bot instantly says that this will never happen. Working as intended, do other gathering stuff. Fishing will not be more than it is now.
    Are you an SE employee so that you can state *anything* about this game?
    Oh, wait, you're just another white knight who's going to defend every dumb design decision SE makes for no reason.
    Guess what, if majority of players dislike it it's NOT working as intended, it's broken and needs a fix.

    And while we're at it - bots use botany and mining just fine, spewing hundreds of thousands of shards onto the market on a daily basis. You don't beat bots by making an entire class borderline useless, they'll just find another way to make gil.
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  10. #10
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenobius View Post
    Are you an SE employee so that you can state *anything* about this game?
    Oh, wait, you're just another white knight who's going to defend every dumb design decision SE makes for no reason.
    Guess what, if majority of players dislike it it's NOT working as intended, it's broken and needs a fix.

    And while we're at it - bots use botany and mining just fine, spewing hundreds of thousands of shards onto the market on a daily basis. You don't beat bots by making an entire class borderline useless, they'll just find another way to make gil.
    You're right I shouldn't have been so definitive in my language. However, to this date...I'm right, and you're wrong. *Winks*
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