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  1. #61
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    Genesiser's Avatar
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    Flig Neldajoa
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    What is the point of saying crafting is too easy? Who cares if many people have max level craft jobs? If you max them out, then guess what? You can craft anything in the game and hq it easily - why get mad if others can also do it? Are you upset that people won't be adding you to their friend list having you be their "go to guy" for crafting? Who cares. Just take solace in knowing that if YOU ever need anything, then YOU can easily make it. Forget about what others can and can't do. Besides, what would you do with the tons of gil you are "missing out on" when the only thing to spend gil on is materia for gear that can only be crafted? In other words, stop worrying about it. If anything, all your complaining would do is slow down other people that may wish to take on the task of leveling up their other crafts. And the only thing that would do is prolong your status as "one of the elite few" for a bit longer. Just stop complaining and be happy that you can easily make whatever you want for yourself.
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  2. #62
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Leatherworker Lv 50
    I think there is a loop going on in some people's head that goes:
    "I got to 50 craft by spending a lot of gil, so I should get a lot of gil in return to make up for it!"
    to
    "I'm not making my gil back, because everyone else is getting to 50, that's unfair!"

    rinse, repeat for next craft.

    The amount of gil necessary to get a craft to 50, spamming the AH is huge. Can it be done? of course, but don't expect the returns to be so luxurious. Even after 50, when you start to meld your AF, then over meld for 2star is an insane hit to the pocket. To do that for more then one craft would again take a higher hit.

    Probably spend anywhere from a mil to 2 mil, to get a 2 star ready craft, if you spam the AH. Not my fault there are complainers that they aren't making their gil back on the pretense "getting to 50 is too ez, too much competition!"
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  3. #63
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    Jedediah's Avatar
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    Jedediah Strike
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Why do people see the words "crafting is too easy" but then read them as "I've maxed all crafts and don't want anyone else to"..? I personally think it's because they're morons, but no doubt someone will try to defend their argument because obviously they are correct. The fact of the matter is that no game mechanic should allow someone to level from 1 to 50 in a day. What's the point of creating these crafts and making them quite enjoyable, to then add a leves system that cheapens. At this rate all the crafters will realise that there is no point in crafting far too quickly.
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  4. #64
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedediah View Post
    Why do people see the words "crafting is too easy" but then read them as "I've maxed all crafts and don't want anyone else to"..? I personally think it's because they're morons, but no doubt someone will try to defend their argument because obviously they are correct. The fact of the matter is that no game mechanic should allow someone to level from 1 to 50 in a day. What's the point of creating these crafts and making them quite enjoyable, to then add a leves system that cheapens. At this rate all the crafters will realise that there is no point in crafting far too quickly.
    There isn't a system. you only get 6 leves a day, 1 GC a day, and lot of lots of hard to get mats if you go through your list.

    Stocking up leves is different mechanic, but people rarely think about that.
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  5. #65
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    Bufkus's Avatar
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    Hermennes Cletrindale
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    .Just because you like to take your time leveling it doesn't mean it isn't easy. If anything, crafting is even simpler right now with the abundance of materials in the market. Want Pudding Flesh? It's there. Need Wyvern Obsidian? You can buy 99 of them for 1 gil each (in Leviathan, at least).
    lol pudding flesh is 10k+ on leviathan. all the other ingredients like wyvern obsidian are cheap due to botters. pudding flesh can't be botted. leviathan's economy is one of the worst among the non-legacy servers due to botters and cheaters.
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  6. #66
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    Dale's Avatar
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    Jeremy Dale
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I am a legacy player and i leveled every job to 50 before 2.0. I must say that leveling crafting (and DoL jobs) to 50 is waaaaaaay too easy. Looking back all the way to FFXI before the level cap was raised past 75, leveling jobs took a long time. It told a very long time to get a relic, it was rare to see compared to the amount of people on the server. Endgame stuff was almost a privilege. After the level cap was raised to 99, the game was a joke. I mean a PLD soloing Divine Might!!! Seriously!!! An alliance of 75 barely stood a chance at it, but it was the biggest challenge.
    Crafting is boring.

    Final Fantasy 14 does a better job at it then most other games I have played. But that being said, it is still boring. To me at least.

    So I wouldn't support making it take longer to level up. Not unless they first made it more entertaining to do.
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  7. #67
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ksenia Solo
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 100
    The thing that makes end game crafting "hard" if by hard you mean it takes monumental hours of grind to do, no longer has anything to do with crafting.

    To obtain all 8 Achievement main hand tools you need for the final tier, 3000 Snurble tufts, 6000 fleece, 3000 raptor skins, 9000 Rosewood Logs, 12,000 Cobalt Ore, 6000 Iron Ore, 3000 Raw Amber, 3000 Mistletoe, 3000 Mugworts, 3000 Rolandberry, 6000 Nightmilk.

    Scared yet? Don't be. The hard part is yet to come. You also need 120,000 shards.

    Have fun with that.
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  8. #68
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    Tygari Krystalpaw
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 68
    I started when the game was first released on a non legacy server.
    I had nothing from legacy to help me and markets were non existent at that time.
    Even botters hadn't yet managed to achieve anything, especially the crashing of prices.
    Despite that I achieved all 8 crafts to 50 very very quickly.

    And here is my proof.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ent/detail/97/

    The crafting system in this game is much more fun then any other game i have played.
    But the system is far to easy.

    Further more the Leve system is very broken.
    Many a players are simply buying their way up the levels through its abuse.
    They don't have to craft anything.
    They just have others craft it for them and turn it in for leves and quests.

    So in my opinion the Crafting system is far to easy and i am praying that when it is expanded something is done to increase its difficulty.
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  9. #69
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    GuardianX's Avatar
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    Robert Black
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's more fair for SE to keep crafting as it is but when the game is expanded, only 1 crafting job is allowed to go past 50. Perhaps level 75 and no leves are allowed to get to level 75.
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  10. #70
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liadan Summerfield
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tygari View Post
    The crafting system in this game is much more fun then any other game i have played.
    But the system is far to easy.
    Why is that?

    Further more the Leve system is very broken.
    Many a players are simply buying their way up the levels through its abuse.
    They don't have to craft anything.
    They just have others craft it for them and turn it in for leves and quests.
    How does this hurt you in any way? Are they taking your leve quests? Wait, are they not buying the HQ stuff you put up on the Marketboards? Could that be the source of your jealousy?

    So in my opinion the Crafting system is far to easy and i am praying that when it is expanded something is done to increase its difficulty.
    So now that you have every craft to 50, you want to make it harder for everyone else. Huh. And you'd be totally cool with all of your crafts being deleveled, too, right? So that you, too, would have to experience this "new and improved" crafting system, right?
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