Thread: 2.1 Delayed?

Originally Posted by Starlord

Well, whether or not the stuff to them has any use to them or not is not the point. Some people aren't all about the stats.

The people "who aren't all about stats" doesn't care for content to begin with - You can say "I'm not all about stats" and I guarantee you never make it past Turn 1. I'm not trying to be mean here, but no one can justify the content design of this game in a serious manner. Tell me why would I schedule FC runs for Primals or Sunken Temple or Cutter's? (Never mind that they're 4 man content as well for the dungeons.)

It's one thing to "do something for fun" and another to state this game has a ton of content that you do literally only one time unless you want to just have something to do. I have no reason to get a Primal weapon after I do it for my Relic Quest.

And before you respond with "well that is your opinion" - SE wouldn't have designed the Relic Quest the way they did if they wanted to make Primals viable content because the current ARR design makes primals useless if you're working on a relic weapon. Same with the main storyline - They made the dungeons involved with them useless after you clear it one time unless you want the armor sets which gets outdated by the next dungeon. There's things to do, no one denied that, it's just a lot of what there is to do is highly optional.

I love these forums. Placing titles like 'White Knight', 'Hater', and 'Troll' on people.
Nothing is ever good enough or out fast enough.
People 'speed running' content to minutes, then complain have nothing to do.
People who have no idea about design or large scale coding, telling SE how to do things.
My personal favorite, people looking for a reason for this game to fail, so they can go "I told you so".

This forum is the internet at its finest.

Originally Posted by Starlord

1) Wanderer's Palace
2) AK
3) Hard mode Primals ( Garuda/Titan/Ifrit)*
4) Tomestones of Philo/Mythos
5) Relic Reborn Quest ( For all of the DoW and DoM Jobs)
6) Coil

Let's be realistic here. You can merge #4 with 1 and 2 and then merge #3 with 5 and you're left with this:

1. WP
2. AK
3. Relics
4. Coil

Actually, what the hell. Why not just merge AK and WP together since they're basically the same exact thing, so really it's

1. WP/AK
2. Relics
3. Coil

Let's go even further now.

1 you can farm as much as you want for entry level dungeon gear and 8-10 times per week for ilv90 gear (which is retarded that it comes from here, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms). Anyway, let's move on.

2 is not as much content as you make it out to be. There are 9 relics and each relic takes 3 hours to obtain for a total of 27 hours of content. Once you're done this content means absolutely nothing to you anymore. Primals themselves are pointless to farm because of how easy and quick it is to get relics so I don't even see why you mentioned them.

And that leaves us with number 3, coil. 5 turns, 4 of which have something to kill and all of which can be cleared in an hour if you're good, not to mention you're locked out until the weekly reset once it's cleared.

So in reality you have 27 hours of relics, 1 hour of coil per week and as much WP/AK as you can grind until your eyes bleed.

This is hardly what anyone in their right mind would consider "a lot of content."

Originally Posted by permbanned

Why not just merge AK and WP together since they're basically the same exact thing, so really it's

1. WP/AK
2. Relics
3. Coil

This is hardly what anyone in their right mind would consider "a lot of content."

Thanks you, I was beginning to think people actually believed that list of 5. Doing a relic quests basically means you are doing 1 and 2 . since it just takes you through instance and primal fights. saying Tomes is a form of content is like saying Gil is endgame content. It is currency, not content. I don't care what anyone thinks, 2 instances is not enough. Coil is definatley not hard enough to last a whole nother patch. Twintania may be, but twintania is not all of binding coil. Crystal tower better be longer to make up for the difficulty downgrade, i hope it is still hard. PvP better have more than a circular room of nothing but killing.