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    BLM actions

    Maybe it is a dumb question, but still I have to figure it out. Aren't the BLM job's actions a bit useless? Apart from Manawall (nullifies two phys attacks) and maybe Flare (I am closed to get it).

    Convert sucks HP to get MP. Why would I do that if I can get all the MP I need with Ethers and then cast Blizzard III?

    Freeze I still have to understand what it does so special.

    Apocatastasis shields a bit the others, one per time, from elements. And only for a short time I mean.. It is a Black Mage!

    And I lose Protect as a cross-class action. Am I looking at them in the wrong way? I never use the 3 above.
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    Convert is actually a great tool to use while you're during your main burn and are running short on MP. It allows you to maximize your damage output while under cooldowns or to use different rotations effectively. Apocatastasis is a very underutilized tool but is useful in a few endgame scenarios. Manawall is great for when you take aggro or just feel like pulling and negating melee. it will also be extremely useful in pvp, as will the above mentioned skills.

    Freeze is a light damage CC. it binds the targets in the circle and is supposed to leave a effect for 15s that when entered binds anyone who enters. Hope that answers you.
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    Ahhh!! So you mean that with Freeze the mobs stay inside the circle? I mean, I tried it few times around but I could never really figure out its benefit. I still have doubts about Convert, though. When I tried to use it I ended up dying. But I was solo, probably not the best idea. Still, wouldn't a mega ether be enough?

    Thanks for the answer anyway.
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    To be honest they are all useless. I'm a 50 blm... and the only ones I use that u mention is mana wall/shield and convert only when I use flare. I use other abilities from cross class.. eye for a eye, and raging strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelasso View Post
    Ahhh!! So you mean that with Freeze the mobs stay inside the circle? I mean, I tried it few times around but I could never really figure out its benefit. I still have doubts about Convert, though. When I tried to use it I ended up dying. But I was solo, probably not the best idea. Still, wouldn't a mega ether be enough?

    Thanks for the answer anyway.
    No one says you can't use Ethers and Convert together.
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    I've never had to use freeze, Apocatastasis isn't useful that much to be honest there's nothing that requires them from current strategy's. Convert is useful after using flare. Manawall/shield are good to use when u pull hate or want to avoid the knockback effect of some enemies I.E. titan hm, and the demonwall come to mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underlord View Post
    To be honest they are all useless. I'm a 50 blm... and the only ones I use that u mention is mana wall/shield and convert only when I use flare. I use other abilities from cross class.. eye for a eye, and raging strikes.
    Apocatastasis while not being great does provide extra mitigation for your tanks on fights that use any of those 3 properties. Convert is amazing period, its about 1k mana, and you can use int potions which boost your damage. Even more when combo'd with raging strikes. I play WHM and BLM in Coil (up to turn 5 btw) and my BLM parses 125k+.

    If you are claiming that Manawall is useless then you really dont know the potential for BLM. They are some of the highest damage output and pull tons of threat. Its a temp melee immunity.

    Granted while Freeze is barely used in any endgame content, its not a useless ability. its all about finding uses for it.

    If you'd like more comprehensive info, you can send me a /tell in-game.
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    granted i am still not blackmage (only lvl 18 so far) but does using transpose and switch to ice (if using fire) not regen your mana quickly?
    Seems silly to sacrifice hp when there is already an ability to gain mana back.
    Just asking as once i am done main story with PLD i wish to go as a black mage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    granted i am still not blackmage (only lvl 18 so far) but does using transpose and switch to ice (if using fire) not regen your mana quickly?
    Seems silly to sacrifice hp when there is already an ability to gain mana back.
    Just asking as once i am done main story with PLD i wish to go as a black mage
    Your mana regens quickly, but later with Flare (uses all of your remaining mana), it's useful to get an immediate mp boost. Plus it can add another couple of spells to your fire rotation if used properly, increasing your damage output (since blizzard kind of sucks damage-wise).
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalfire808 View Post
    Your mana regens quickly, but later with Flare (uses all of your remaining mana), it's useful to get an immediate mp boost. Plus it can add another couple of spells to your fire rotation if used properly, increasing your damage output (since blizzard kind of sucks damage-wise).
    Ok thanks for the info, actually thinking now that i may switch to BM right away instead of continuing on with my PLD
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