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    berated by the tank
    It always seems to be the tanks with the Chuck Norris complex. The number of abrasive, pig headed, gung-ho, socially inept tanks I've come across is huge compared to the number idiots I've come across from other classes.

    What's my conclusion from this? Tanking seems to attract all the prime knob jockeys.

    Extreme Solution

    Debuff them.
    That or permanently dye their armor bright pink.
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    Last edited by blowfin; 11-12-2013 at 11:55 AM.

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    Wren Zakalwe
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    The vas majority of people in DF are fine. Some might be undergeared, some might be not as good as you, but they are almost always either silent (ps3 players maybe, no kb) or polite.

    Rudeness is rare in relative terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    The vas majority of people in DF are fine. Some might be undergeared, some might be not as good as you, but they are almost always either silent (ps3 players maybe, no kb) or polite.

    Rudeness is rare in relative terms.
    I check those silent players who can't be bothered to even say hello. They're more often PC players in my experience.
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    Is the community that bad?
    My experience in game is often neutral (nobody says anything). There are the quitters, but, I kind of understand them. Doing the same thing for 50+ times takes the fun out of it.
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    I have met silent people (sometimes I'm silent myself for various reasons) I have met talkactive people I have met beginners, I have met pros, I have met rude people, I have met friendly people.
    In short there are all kinds of people and for the most part the silent/friendly ones outnumber the rude players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miiu View Post
    I have met silent people (sometimes I'm silent myself for various reasons) I have met talkactive people I have met beginners, I have met pros, I have met rude people, I have met friendly people.
    In short there are all kinds of people and for the most part the silent/friendly ones outnumber the rude players.
    They outnumber them by a large margin.

    People just like to dwell on the negative. This is a known Human trait.

    Just test it for yourself. Make a note of the people in your next xx dungeon runs. If you're not the reason why people are rude the. I guarantee you most people who do this will note the rude ones are a tiny minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    The vas majority of people in DF are fine... they are almost always either silent or polite.
    Rudeness is rare in relative terms.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miiu View Post
    ...In short there are all kinds of people and for the most part the silent/friendly ones outnumber the rude players.
    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    I guarantee you most people who do this will note the rude ones are a tiny minority.
    Indeed many of the people I come across are more often silent than rude (and more often silent than friendly). However, when I do happen to come across a rude player, the person is either complaining at how bad the other players are, outright berating them, or griefing.

    It is not about their number in the wild, but rather about mitigating their acts for the benefit everyone else. Though implying that there are so few is a gross misrepresentation. There are certainly enough to be a problem and enough to warrant people making threads about it XP
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    Last edited by Necromunkey; 11-12-2013 at 02:19 AM. Reason: Elaborating

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    It's not a misrepresentation at all. Rude players are in the minority, and the minority is tiny in comparison to the massive amount of silent (ps3 mostly) and polite players.

    Claiming it's different is, IMO, the misrepresentation.
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    I'm simply claiming it might be more than a "tiny minority" as "tiny minority" would imply only a specific statistical amount (far less than 50%), and unvariable amount of rude people. While the reality is that anyone can be rude in any of the dungeons at any given moment. So it is not a misrepresentation to say "there is enough for it to be a problem" (as I obviously think it is such) because the point of which it becomes a problem is relative, but it is a misrepresentation to apply what is essentially a statistic ("tiny minority") to a situation that we do not have hard numbers, or more evidence on.

    (Essentially, for this comment, I'm arguing word strength. You say there is a tiny minority, I'm saying there is not enough evidence to make that claim, only that I, and a few others, perceive it as a problem)
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    Last edited by Necromunkey; 11-12-2013 at 02:50 AM. Reason: elaboration

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    Essentially, why attempt to deface an argument with an unsupported claim, stating the offending individuals are so few it isn't a problem, when the argument simply states that it is a problem whether or not there are only a few offenders. Indeed my argument was not "there are so many mean people, why" (in which case answering there isn't that many would probably be legitimate), but rather"some people are rude, how can we deter that behavior". I'm not asking what the mindshare is, only what we can do to deter the crap that already does happen.
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