Fixing the Community Thinktank!

[Necromunkey]

Its obvious that some people found in the duty finder (and even in built parties within a single world) are extremely rude to others.

-Some bully those that do not "fulfill" their role to a specific standard.
-Others are self focused and leave mid duty after a single wipe.
-Even more are entirely unhelpful to other players possibly new to specific content (as Klutz64 pointed out).

While its probably impossible to keep people from being as**oles to one another (internet),
What ways can you think of to reduce or deter such behavior?

(Edit: Readability, added more community problems, anecdote removed and posted in a separate post)

[Necromunkey]

My own suggestion would be something along the lines of a moderator "judge", that would appear within Duties and other instances randomly, briefly view the party chat history looking for extensively mean behavior, and punish the individual(s) by slashing rewards (or chances to receive said rewards), or, alternatively, reward the victims more than the propagators. This would deter individuals from being offensive to one another, though the side effect might be reduced communication overall (and who would determine what is outright offensive behavior and what is good natured ribbing?) Comments on my idea, in addition to your own ideas, would be greatly appreciated.

Anecdote from original post:
Reason I bring this up is was that in my last WP run, Scholar was trying the best she could (hopefully ) but was berated by the tank. First only mildly (saying she should "do better") then, at the Tonberry King, more harshly calling the her a "Sh***y healer."

I stood up for her (though she left soon after being called "sh***y"), then I was berated for sticking up for her! Not just by the tank, but also by the other DPS!

[EinSoFZ]

These things happen all the time and there's no way to quell it or prevent it. If I use DF and someone acts out like that, I just get another group. Since DF teams are so temporary I don't see a need to complicate it. If we needed moderators all the time we'd never get anything done since there is always drama.

[Necromunkey]

Well, obviously, I believe we should try to quell or prevent it. Just because of temporary associations shouldn't give people a free pass at being douches (Most people wouldn't act that way to randoms, say in a bar or restaurant, without repercussions). Lack of acting simply perpetuates the matter, and leaving to join another group may not always be a viable option (after a 20 min DPS wait, I'd like to get through the dungeon and go tend to other matters). The moderation need not be very intrusive, merely a warning, an immediate (perhaps even mild) slash in rewards for that specific run, or even just the threat of it occurring would probably be enough to keep people from being douchey especially among those looking to maximize their reward with the least amount of time and effort.

[Steeled]

We're not children, most of us. We don't need babysitters or protection, we just need simple means to punish players who are deliberately bringing this down.



I made this for you
/thinktank

Lol Sorry I had to... For you...

I love it.

[Doo]

Make game more like FFXI.

[EinSoFZ]

/thinktank

No u di'nt!

[aray0002]

This late into the game .. the casual gamer has already been weeded out.. Those that are left here playing this game are the typical Gaming Geeks and Nerds that all MMO's are built on. FFXI captured the console community and brought them into the world of MMO's
What we have now as FFXIV community is a mix of old FFXI players and mostly : MMO nerds from WoW and SWG and other PC type MMO's
The bully mentality comes from the FORCED to repeat the same damn Dungeon over and over and over and over and over to get your weekly cap of myth
or phy tomes. Nobody wants to spend 60 min to run a dungeon they know by past experience can be done in 30 min.
SE can combat this by que'ing up for STORY MODE PROGRESSION or option to pick
( SPEED RUN )> if you pick speed run you better know your roll or you should be flamed for not doing your job.
2.1 better address the monotony the end game has become.

[Necromunkey]

We're not children, most of us. We don't need babysitters or protection, we just need simple means to punish players who are deliberately bringing this down.



I made this for you
/thinktank

Lol Sorry I had to... For you...

[Shug]

I'm not a gaming geek. I just like playing.