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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    Harder but not impossible? So wouldn't really stop anything then?
    Part of the reason it is so out of control though is it takes little to no knowledge to reverse engineer how the game works and communicates with the back end servers. I get its not impossible to do the same with compiled code however if its not something anyone with a copy of VS can accomplish and it would help fight the problem and reduce the quantity of bots available on the market. The job of detecting and blocking them gets a lot easier when you have a few of them vs. hundreds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSN View Post
    Part of the reason it is so out of control though is it takes little to no knowledge to reverse engineer how the game works and communicates with the back end servers. I get its not impossible to do the same with compiled code however if its not something anyone with a copy of VS can accomplish and it would help fight the problem and reduce the quantity of bots available on the market. The job of detecting and blocking them gets a lot easier when you have a few of them vs. hundreds.
    I do get where you are coming from, i can only guess that SE probably isn't using such preventions due to the probability of RMT companies probably hire coders with the know how to sidestep anything anyway. Seeing as the main problem is the RMT companies rather than some home made bot program they just worry about that instead.

    It is frustrating, i just try to not let it get to me too much. I have been putting up with all kinds of in game cheats (aim bots, fish bots, etc) in games for 14 years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    It is frustrating, i just try to not let it get to me too much. I have been putting up with all kinds of in game cheats (aim bots, fish bots, etc) in games for 14 years now.
    Accepting the bot activity is one way of dealing with it, but I think what the thread is pointing out is that a lot of players won't accept this. My blacklist is already half full and to date exactly one of those 100 bots has been deleted. When my blacklist fills up and I have no choice but to listen to tells every 15 seconds for some gilseller, I'll quit too.

    The things DSN has listed are very, very, very *basic* things that *anyanyany* client/server application should be doing. ANY. The database insecurities in this game are an absolute joke and something Sqenix needs to address very quickly, before any more economic destruction occurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeilLega View Post
    Accepting the bot activity is one way of dealing with it, but I think what the thread is pointing out is that a lot of players won't accept this. My blacklist is already half full and to date exactly one of those 100 bots has been deleted. When my blacklist fills up and I have no choice but to listen to tells every 15 seconds for some gilseller, I'll quit too.

    The things DSN has listed are very, very, very *basic* things that *anyanyany* client/server application should be doing. ANY. The database insecurities in this game are an absolute joke and something Sqenix needs to address very quickly, before any more economic destruction occurs.
    Please do not misunderstand me, i do not suggest we just put up with it, i report and blist constantly myself. I just try to be patient and let companies deal with things. I guess in my case not understanding anything about coding i can only assume companies are doing what they can to cope with RMT.
    If SE have dropped the ball as you are pointing out then they should be urged to pick it up and start running with it again.
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