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    Dungeoon maker

    I and some of the people in my FC sat here and talked alittle and came into the idea of having a kind of dungeon making tool.

    It would work like this, there is a tool with which you can create mechanic ideas. Like a lightning area around the boss at specific points that deals x damage. Or that when the boss does 1 attack all players get 1 stack of a debuff etc. etc. A way to "script" battles and eighter making the tool so powerful so you yourself can create the dungeon or submit it to SE for a "competition" where 1 or more design gets chosed and designed in the game.

    I know this would take alot of work, but I really think it would help with 2 important things.

    1. It would make content last longer. With a design tool like this alot of people will spend hours designing their own dungeons.

    2. Increase the speed in which dungeons are put into the game. As of now I see alot of complains about it being to few instances in this game at 50. With this the creativity issue is solved.

    This would also make the players feeling more involved with the game. It would make them, the player base, a part of the world and in how it evolves.

    I know this is very ambitious, but I think it is maybe a fun idea.
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    If you want to see how badly a dungeon making tool can fail, check out Neverwinter Online (by Cryptic). It requires a whole team in itself, plus its own beta and maintenance.

    I'm not going to recommend Neverwinter Nights (the Bioware game, which was good, btw), though, because the aurora toolset is for persistent world isometric dungeon crawling.

    It is a fun idea, but it causes remarkably high stress for the development team (as shown in the previous titles if you decide to look), and I think they have enough stress at the moment with current community degrading their work constantly. It is incredibly ambitious, as you said, but I don't think the PAYING MMO audience will accept it well, pointing out and relishing on bugs and flaws in the system (again, see Neverwinter Online's forums for yourself, it truly is more toxic than FFXIV, if you can believe it).

    It's not a bad idea, really. I just want to stress that there's too much risk vs. reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Good idea, horrible for players to have control of. As we seen whenever developers give us tools to make our own content and stuff..people abuse it and ruin it for everyone, i.e making unlimited exp dungeons/item/money farming dungeons etc.
    This exactly. They have to place an absurd amount of limitations to the system to TRY and prevent exploitation. Kind of like these forums....
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    Last edited by ruinedmirage; 11-11-2013 at 09:55 AM.

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    No....just no
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    Good idea, horrible for players to have control of. As we seen whenever developers give us tools to make our own content and stuff..people abuse it and ruin it for everyone, i.e making unlimited exp dungeons/item/money farming dungeons etc.
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    If this is what you want in your MMO, I suggest you check out Neverwinter. I really don't think something like this would ever be realistically implementable in a game like FFXIV.
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    Hmm when I was playing Neverwinter for a couple weeks, the dungeon maker seemed pretty cool if you only did ones from serious makers. Though I don't think something like that would really work well with 14.
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