Potions - what's the point?

[Castillan]

Ether and health potions I understand, and they're not really a point of discussion here, well except for maybe their crazy long cool-downs that render them near useless except as desperate one-off items at the end of a long fight that for sure is going to be over in the next 30 secs.

I'm talking about the potions that boost attributes (mind, strength, vitality, etc), which they do, but for only 15s and with LONG cool-downs, and are as expensive to make in terms of materials, crystals, and gathering time, as any food. Further, 15s duration for the attributes like vitality/piety isn't long enough for your mana/health to recharge mid-fight, and if you pop before a fight, it's gone before anything really happens.

I guess for STR/MND/DEX/INT it offers a small temporary damage boost, a bit like a Cooldown power, but the expense to make potions coupled with very short durations and long cool-downs makes using them prohibitive for all but very select scenarios.

Any thoughts?

[IzumiRaito]

Offensive potions are viable in tight dps checks. Vit potion could be useful for spike health check, but mega-potion of vit has ridiculously rare material.

[Appleh4x]

?

If you pop a mega strength potion and then limit Titan's Heart with a DRG that has a relic+1 you are going to take away like half it's health in one shot. You can get them from quests too

[Niadissa]

I agree with that, it seems strange that a 10 second buff has a 5 min cooldown. (not sure what the actual cooldown is off the top of my head) But the status ones are nice for everyone to carry just in case but again the cooldowns make even them very prohibitive to use.

[MisakiSatomi]

If you pop a mega strength potion and then limit Titan's Heart with a DRG that has a relic+1 you are going to take away like half it's health in one shot. You can get them from quests too

Potions do not affect limit breaks.
Also, *cough* drg?

[Appleh4x]

Potions do not effect limit breaks.
Also, *cough* drg?

Ah thought they just scaled on a potency value like a skill. Only ever used tank LB

[NeoAmon]

Ah thought they just scaled on a potency value like a skill. Only ever used tank LB

LB scale of the avg group weapons damage. so a naked group with only relic +1 will do the exact amount of LB dmg as a group with full ilvl90.

[Castillan]

Offensive potions are viable in tight dps checks. Vit potion could be useful for spike health check, but mega-potion of vit has ridiculously rare material.

Maybe, but you'd had to time it well with both your healer as well as the damaging effect. Giving yourself an instant +xx% vitality doesn't give you more HP instantly, it just raises your HP cap, for which you still need to be healed (or resting) to get to the new cap. I guess maybe you could pop both a vitality and health potion for a spike health check, assuming you could get them both off in time (depends on what's coming), but given their cool-downs they're still one-off deals. Let's say the team goes on to wipe anyway for whatever reason. You've just gone and burned some highly time/resource expensive potions for nothing.

As for offensive potions, it'd had to be a really tight dps check that couldn't be saved by preserving your power cool-downs until the dps check is needed.

[Nahara]

I've heard that Egi and such take a snap-shot of your stats when they're summoned, so if you know your summon isn't in danger of getting killed or something, you could pop a potion, summon it, and it has better stats than if you summoned it normally.

What I really would like to know is how viable the elemental resistance potions are. From my current point of view, they're kinda worthless.

[Escadora]

Yeah, potions are HIGHLY viable and are actually a necessity for strict DPS check. Especially for runs like twintania where there is an enrage mechanic.

For example, popping an HQ mega potion of dex nets me 20% additional dex. That's 60 additional DEX (cap) for 15 seconds. It's worth it.