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    Regen bug

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    Sometimes

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    It happening to many, I guess.

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    Doesn't matter.

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    Balmung

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    White Mage 50.

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    everywhere.

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    Party.

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    Casting Regen on players with Regen about to fall off sometimes is ineffective in overwriting and renewing the Regen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Casting Regen on players with Regen about to fall off sometimes is ineffective in overwriting and renewing the Regen.
    Regen is a buff, and like all buffs/debuffs in game is subject to rules about replacement. I.e An existing buff/debuff is replaced by a second cast only if the second cast is equal to or greater in strength than the original. The game does not look at duration at all.

    What this means in the case of Regen not replacing is that your first cast was under the effects of a healing potency buff, whether from your own Divine Seal, Eos' Fae Illumination, or a MND boosting potion. The second cast that failed to overwrite it would have been cast after the potency buff has worn off, and thus was weaker in strength. Its also possible that your first cast may have been unbuffed if your second cast was under the effects of a debuff like Determination Down. Any situation that results in a weaker cast of Regen on the second cast will prevent it from overwriting.

    Moral of the story: wait until your buff/debuff has fully dropped to avoid clipping of the durations and the possibility of losing one cast entirely like above.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 11-10-2013 at 06:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
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    LOL that's not true.

    It clearly is a bug, usually happen when you cast Regen on a player who has only 1 sec Regen left. If you cast a new Regen when it still has 3-4 seconds (or more) it won't cause the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    LOL that's not true.

    It clearly is a bug, usually happen when you cast Regen on a player who has only 1 sec Regen left. If you cast a new Regen when it still has 3-4 seconds (or more) it won't cause the issue.
    You are more than welcome to disbelieve me and go with your own subjective explanation of what you are seeing.

    However, a weaker Regen not overwriting a stronger one is easily tested using any of Divine Seal, Cleric Stance, a MND potion, an equipment change, or any other number of ways to modify your MND, healing potency or determination stats. Other abilities I did not previously mention that will cause this are Mantra or Convalesence. You can also test the same phenomenon on a debuff, such as Aero by switching Cleric Stance on and off.

    Cheers, and goodbye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    You are more than welcome to disbelieve me and go with your own subjective explanation of what you are seeing.

    However, a weaker Regen not overwriting a stronger one is easily tested using any of Divine Seal, Cleric Stance, a MND potion, an equipment change, or any other number of ways to modify your MND, healing potency or determination stats. Other abilities I did not previously mention that will cause this are Mantra or Convalesence. You can also test the same phenomenon on a debuff, such as Aero by switching Cleric Stance on and off.

    Cheers, and goodbye.
    This happens even when there is no change in the quality of the Regen spell. I'm not saying your scenarios described don't apply, but I see this happen often.

    Unless your suggesting that maybe Convalescence or Mantra that some 2nd or third party is using is causing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    You are more than welcome to disbelieve me and go with your own subjective explanation of what you are seeing.

    However, a weaker Regen not overwriting a stronger one is easily tested using any of Divine Seal, Cleric Stance, a MND potion, an equipment change, or any other number of ways to modify your MND, healing potency or determination stats. Other abilities I did not previously mention that will cause this are Mantra or Convalesence. You can also test the same phenomenon on a debuff, such as Aero by switching Cleric Stance on and off.

    Cheers, and goodbye.
    OMG you're just a lv37 WHM... all you're doing here is convincing SE staffs to consider this as "not a bug" and it will never get fix.
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    Last edited by Evangela; 11-10-2013 at 07:03 PM.

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    it is a bug, and it usually happens with 1 sec remaining on the current regen, as mentioned above.

    Yes, casting a weaker regen on the current one, will cause it to have no effect, that is true.
    But this is happening when there are no differences in the potency/strenght of the Regen.
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    It is a bug, if it fails to overwrite, you lose the MP, I always try to cast Regen on the last 3 secs to ensure it won't bug on me. >.<
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    Dude I thought it was my ps3 not registering all this time. Lool
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