Notice to all Tank and Melee dps in general in AK.

[HumsterMKX]

Guys pls understand that Shadow Flare helps dpsing the wall faster. As a Sch, I will normally place it down before I start dotting the wall. Smns also do more or less the same.

If you, maybe having problem dodging the lanes, zooming out helps a lot. But if you do not want to zoom out (maybe due to not understanding controls or religious reason or you are a lalafell and a bigger looking world frightens you) we can set in to the left or right so you can see the lanes, easier. But please change your playstyle a little, for "I used to dodge to the left/right, you suck." QQs = unreasonable.

Remember the world do not revovle around you, but the party.

[ceiimq]

I'm not against this on principle (I'm a SCH myself), but here's the thing: first, Shadow Flare honestly does very little damage. Second, people are wrong when they call the wall a DPS check: pretty much any party can clear it as long as they handle the mechanics right.

So helping people deal with the mechanics should be your first priority. Sure if they did things right Shadow Flare wouldn't hinder them, but your teammates are who they are (especially in PU groups) and you won't change them by being frustrated. Just make their lives easier.

[Vantwan]

What's the point of this thread? Wasn't there already an exact same one a few days ago?

Also I love how you say "the world doesn't revolve around you" then how about YOU stop being a hypocrite and adapt to the party's standards? If the tank/dps are bad and they can't dodge void zones if you cast shadow flare, then ffs just stop using it. Demon wall isn't even a dps race, I've beaten it with a party full of GC weapons without breaking a sweat.

[HumsterMKX]

What's the point of this thread? Wasn't there already an exact same one a few days ago?

Also I love how you say "the world doesn't revolve around you" then how about YOU stop being a hypocrite and adapt to the party's standards? If the tank/dps are bad and they can't dodge void zones if you cast shadow flare, then ffs just stop using it. Demon wall isn't even a dps race, I've beaten it with a party full of GC weapons without breaking a sweat.

You need to understand this, does anyone say what they want to do.

All the PUG at AK =

Hello! LB left or LB both, depending on PT setup. Then nothing.

The great part about this is, you didn't say anything. Then you expect ppl to know, then QQ about it.

Say next time I need to ask if anyone prefer Embace or Physhic, how much % of hp they need to feel comfortable. And if they feel comfortable if they my fairy is healing them.

[aray0002]

If people cant beat AK ( demon wall ) they don't need to continue. This game only gets more complicated regarding AOE dodge.
Matter of fact... if you cant learn left, right,left, right - wait- reset - repeat. then you not going to be able to do Titan / BC / CT

Just quit now and do yourself a favor.. go back to COD or GOW this type game is not for you.

[Shneibel]

....zoom out ? at demon wall !? this is a joke right ?

[Ronyx]

Shadow Flare does considered amount of dmg because it last longer than any other DoT. Besides thats the point of SMN do DoTs thats how he does dmg. Even if the spell do 10 dmg per tick when you add up all the DoTs, Bio, Bio2, Thunder, etc. The life of an enemy gets down faster. Also Fester does more dmg the More DoT it had when you activate it.

[joshdavis271]

its hard to do a burn when the pt is undergeared, heck its hard to do ak period when the pt is way undergeared.

[HumsterMKX]

its hard to do a burn when the pt is undergeared, heck its hard to do ak period when the pt is way undergeared.

Most of the time, it is not lanes it is the flies. I done with ppl with less then average gear. Everything went nicely till the flies pop. At that point ppl just get confused, even with intructions gaving before hand.

[Allyrion]

So it was really worth making a new thread just to be all clever to respond to another thread?
i.e. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-in-AK-groups
Rather than say, reply to said thread that was active around half an hour before you made this.

I even agree with you about there being no problem with using Shadow Flare.
But this is just juvenile.
Learn to keep the high ground.