What is the reasoning behind not separating Sch and Smn stats?

[Felis]

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I hope you use also buff food, if 15 int or 15 mind is so much important for you

How many who complain about it eat buff food each dungeon run to get really every int or mind they can get?

Limitations of the worthless class system they left in. We currently have 8 classes no one in their right mind plays past level 29 because they are worthless when compared to their jobs, even in a solo environment. They honestly should just drop the class system altogether and stick with jobs only from here on out.

You can't level a job without level the class the same time. Each exp go to the class ^^

[Snowaeth]

Really hoping to see this changed in 2.1 or 2.2
Just wishful thinking

[Castillan]

Is there an inherent problem with MND stacking as a SCH, and then switching on Cleric Stance for SMN?

I don't know. I've not played SCH/SMN, and play as a WHM, but it seems to me that stacking in MND would be the way to go based upon my WHM experiences. A MND stacked WHM in cleric stance mode is fearsome in its damage output.

[tymora]

And somewhere else people are complaining about lack of customization for the character.
(Here, you have 3 choices (sch+, smn/sch, smn+), instead of just 1...in which case, they might as well do away with the bonus attributes since just about everyone is going to pile on the primary stat)

I would imagine this is not just going to stay but it will be expanded upon.
E.g. WAR+ or DRK+...etc

[Calyanare]

Is there an inherent problem with MND stacking as a SCH, and then switching on Cleric Stance for SMN?

I don't know. I've not played SCH/SMN, and play as a WHM, but it seems to me that stacking in MND would be the way to go based upon my WHM experiences. A MND stacked WHM in cleric stance mode is fearsome in its damage output.

SMN doesn't get Cleric Stance.

[AunaYuuki]

It makes you pick one to be a main rather than anything else but at full i90 sch/smner you can easily go full vit and do your job. There are multiple reasons behind it besides "bad programming." I guess many people haven't played traditional mmos on forums. Why do people continue to bring up this? There are already 1000 posts about it go cry there.

[Castillan]

SMN doesn't get Cleric Stance.

That....is stupid. I just checked, yeah, SCH gets it, but not SMN? Now that is silly setup, especially with SCH and SMN having MND/INT relatively close together, unlike WHM.

[Ashgarth]

-One of the main selling points of the game is the hability to play all classes in one character.
-One of the classes with has to choose between two completely different roles to play effectively in endgame scenarios.

Classes are an old concept that just doesnt work, remember that jobs were released so that the game could be changed into something resembling a FF title without completely losing all the progres we had made so far in 1.0.

The ones who suffered this the most were Conjurers who suddenly became healers and thaumaturges who could no longer heal, yet SE decided that the class concept should be kept for lore and adaptavily (Imagine having to rework the entire city, questline and NPCs by elimitating the classes in 1.0) so they kept them and since progress was saved to ARR they still exist now,

The prupose of "Using class for solo content" just doesnt work for one reason, there is no such content in ARR,

[Nahara]

That....is stupid. I just checked, yeah, SCH gets it, but not SMN? Now that is silly setup, especially with SCH and SMN having MND/INT relatively close together, unlike WHM.

You don't really get why Cleric Stance exists, do you?

Cleric Stance doesn't exist so Arcanists can cheat the bonus attribute system. Cleric Stance exists so that healers, who are stuck wearing healer gear and wielding healer weapons, can get a boost to their offensive power so they can do solo content.

[WiseWolfHolo]

Basically so you cannot exceed at both. Imagine leveling 1 class and being able to effectively heal for sch and dps as smn, so in a duty finder with 1 class you can que as either. Meanwhile other players are forced to really play as what their selected class is. Bottom line SE does not want you to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Anyway int and mind are slightly useless stats imo. With every int increase as a mage your dps barely will change by any means and same goes for mind, your heal without 30 min will drop maybe 40 points, but sch is a crit oriented healer so big deal about you base heal losing 40 when it does not crit. With crit heals granting a broken barrier it does not really matter if the barrier has that extra 30 mind on it, since it will only mitigate about 100 more damage. Basically just choose 1 to stat or stat it with all vit or vit/pie because again that extra 30 for either class is a debateable increase.