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    Snowaeth's Avatar
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    Snow Ball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70

    What is the reasoning behind not separating Sch and Smn stats?

    One strength of FFXIV is the ability to play all classes on the same character and switch between them with 1 button click.

    Why is it that someone that plays either Sch or Smn is forced to sacrifice the primary stat of one, for the other.

    You can argue about 15/15 or even that 30pt don't matter, but if you want your job to be the best it can be, 15-30pt do matter.

    What is the reasoning behind forcing us to share stats between 2 separate jobs, that have 2 totally different roles and main stats?

    I can understand, lvling balance that you only have to lvl 1 and can play both, but by now a lot of people are past the point where being the 1st or 50000th lvl 50 matters anymore.

    I'm asking why? And pleading to separate the stats of Summoner and Scholar from each other so we can freely switch between them at any time and play either role at their best, rather than having to spend 10k tomes every time we truly want to play one and then switch back to the other.
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    More than likely, its because Jobs are still Class based, so they cannot seperate them from each other due to the shared Class. This would also be why as say... a Paladin, Cure is Cross Class, while Fast Blade is not (you are actually still a Gladiator)
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    Gaust Euler
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'd imagine just laziness. Since it's probably not as easy as just flipping a switch. They probably have to do a lot of work behind the scenes to make it work.

    The game isn't alt-class friendly anyway, so I find it's not that big a deal since you'll be spending your Myth on 1 Job.
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    Because they want you to choose the one you'd prefer to strengthen most. Anyone who calls it a lockout is insane, you can still be an effective SCH if you statted for SMN.

    You can also buy stat resets if you demand that you be able to be the best at everything.

    The game isn't alt-class friendly anyway,
    This is a load of crap as well. This game is alt class friendlier than any other game out there. There's no rule that says "to change to this job and play it for any purpose, you must have all ilvl90 gear."

    I'm asking why? And pleading to separate the stats of Summoner and Scholar from each other so we can freely switch between them at any time and play either role at their best
    No. ACN gives you a 2 for 1 deal on jobs. They want you to choose one of them that you'd like to favor. It does not render the other job unplayable, no matter how much you'd like to think so. This is another case of "wah wah, I must have everything let me ahve everything! gimme more, more is always better!"

    This simply occurs because most humans are unable to make decisions.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 11-10-2013 at 06:31 AM.

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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    This is a load of crap as well. This game is alt class friendlier than any other game out there. There's no rule that says "to change to this job and play it for any purpose, you must have all ilvl90 gear."
    No it's not. In any other MMO if you played a different class you could do everything your main could, not in this game.
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    Rhizzae Cathedral
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Because Jobs are not XI Jobs. Jobs are meant to be skill trees. In every game you have to pay something to reset your points to stat into another tree.
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    Blaise Destin
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kopuno View Post
    Because Jobs are not XI Jobs. Jobs are meant to be skill trees. In every game you have to pay something to reset your points to stat into another tree.
    Yes, but the other 5 or 6 jobs don't have to suffer this balance issue, which is the point the OP is trying to make in case it was missed.

    Still, that in mind, I'd like to say in the future there will probably be more jobs, some of them sharing the same classes, so a lot of jobs in the future will likely be facing the same "problem" SMN/SCH Are now... by then maybe they're update it... Personally I wouldn't mind them placing a cap on individual stats but allowing us to get more than 30 to spread by some sort of merit/overlevel system that many games offer.

    This is a load of crap as well. This game is alt class friendlier than any other game out there. There's no rule that says "to change to this job and play it for any purpose, you must have all ilvl90 gear."
    I think hes talking about the fact if you want to properly gear your jobs in anything I.lv90, You either have to get lucky on Allagan or wait months and months to gear up a second job. This game has the ability to cross-class but it does have a lot of restrictions that make gearing up a secondary class more difficult, not limited to the Mythos cap... (Such as once a week only for Coil)
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Yet another example of bad design and a job shoehorned into a class at the very last minute. Hope you have 10K GC seals whenever you want to switch between them because 30 INT or 30 MND do matter. So much for the liberty of the armoury system.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    No reason, it's kinda silly and should be separated.
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    Rin Tezuka
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Limitations of the worthless class system they left in. We currently have 8 classes no one in their right mind plays past level 29 because they are worthless when compared to their jobs, even in a solo environment. They honestly should just drop the class system altogether and stick with jobs only from here on out.
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