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    Player
    Nocens's Avatar
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    Eternity Moon
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Speed runs ruined it. Just saying.
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    "A wounded man says to his assailant "if I live I will kill you if I die you are forgiven" thus is the rule of honor" - Omertá

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    Alenna Nightmoon
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Heh, yeah I tend to keep things moving at a steady pace but I am very mindful to make sure my group is keeping up. I consider keeping track of the other players part of the job of being a tank. Not doing myself any favors jumping into combat with the rest of the team left behind anyways

    Players aggressively jumping into combat faster than everyone can keep up never turns out well. You can get away with moving ahead to clear trash mobs while some of the DPS are "brb", but aside from that its usually a mess.
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    Last edited by Obreck; 11-10-2013 at 07:12 PM.
    Petition to lift the silly dye restrictions:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/91325-Petition-to-be-able-to-dye-unique-items

    Just say NO to vanity slot restrictions:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/92307-Vanity-slot-restriction-concerns.....?p=1278591#post1278591

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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Honestly you should be following the tank, they are the leader, they pull the mobs and set the pace of the dungeon. Lagging behind because your not paying attention as a healer or dps that's your fault.
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    Ava Adore
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Honestly you should be following the tank, they are the leader, they pull the mobs and set the pace of the dungeon. Lagging behind because your not paying attention as a healer or dps that's your fault.
    so, I've seen a few people claim this before in this very topic, but who the hell decided on this and why the hell have I NEVER seen it become an 'MMO rule' even though I've been playing them for almost 14 years now?

    granted Tanks do make good raid leaders since they already have to pay attention to pretty much everything, but so do healer and ranged dps. hell, our main raid's leader in my LOTRO kinship (and that was progression raiding) was a freaking burglar and he was AMAZING at his job (burglar = melee dps)

    the leader is the leader. i'm not 'switching' my role depending on which class I play and i don't expect others to do so, either. I also think you don't understand what 'being a leader' means when you think it's cool of a LEADER to not wait for the rest of his troop. I take you're not a military person
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    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    As someone who has done a ton of WP SRs (15 mins and less, average right now is hovering around 14mins) there is just one thing I would like to say :

    For the love of all that is holy wait for me to cast Stoneskin before you run off. I cannot count the amount of times a tank has been so impatient that they ran ahead because they couldn't wait the 2 seconds it takes to cast Stoneskin.

    Seriously.

    WAIT
    FOR
    STONESKIN

    Thank you. ._.b
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    Sunarie's Avatar
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    Astraia Hornraven
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Just from personal experience, since my new sleep schedule has me pugging a lot due to FC members not being on when I can play, when I've tried to take my time and pull slowly inevitably someone in the group complains about it (not always in a rude way, but asking if we can go faster and such). So, what I typically do is wait for everyone to get buffed and run forward a bit at the beginning of an instance and then chain pull from there (unless I have to stop to type or something alone those lines). I've not once had anyone complain that I was going too fast. Note that chain pulling is not the same as a speed run, I don't do speed runs.

    If it's an issue you can always ask them to slow down. I'm sure some of us would be happy to hear it.

    Also as a side note, one of the reasons I probably don't get complaints is because I don't lose aggro and do keep an eye on healers mana. If I see they are far behind or weren't moving for a bit, or not casting, then I am completely capable of stopping.
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    Josh Davis
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I will move to the next spot ahead of the group but will never engage the enemy unless I know my team is behind me ready to support me, gungho tanks especially in a DF group are more likely the first to die.
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    Warren Slassi
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    i love healing tanks that do that, especially when they die and want to say "shitty healer didnt even heal me" and i always reply, "stupid tank, thinks he can solo the whole place "
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    Markis Kyler
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Theres nothing that can stop people from being douches and speeding through or tryin to be the fastest. The sad part is how it and the mentality of it has spread through the game like a virus.
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    Markis Kyler
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Theres nothing that can stop people from being douches and speeding through or tryin to be the fastest. The sad part is how it and the mentality of it has spread through the game like a virus.
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