Latency more than 130ms

[Axgard]

One someway becomes two




Server lag 800ms @2:31am? Seriously?
And always packet loss starts when i pass through Canadian servers or on 1-2 hop's before (usually New York's servers).

[Bryson]

i get a lot of lag as well.
does this sow any signs as to why I lag so much?


2 32 ms 30 ms 29 ms cpe-75-80-208-1.hawaii.res.rr.com [75.80.208.1]

3 13 ms 13 ms 15 ms 24.25.231.225
4 16 ms 16 ms 14 ms tge0-5-0-7.milnhixd01r.hawaii.rr.com [72.129.46.
192]
5 64 ms 68 ms 67 ms agg31.lsancarc01r.socal.rr.com [72.129.45.0]
6 66 ms 68 ms 63 ms bu-ether16.lsancarc0yw-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [66.10
9.6.102]
7 67 ms 66 ms 62 ms 107.14.19.86
8 78 ms 79 ms 81 ms ix-5-3-0-0.tcore2.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [64.
86.252.165]
9 164 ms * 159 ms if-22-2.tcore2.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [66.198.1
44.73]
10 157 ms 160 ms 154 ms if-11-3.tcore2.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net [66.198.14
4.58]
11 159 ms 157 ms 184 ms if-3-2.tcore1.W6C-Montreal.as6453.net [66.198.96
.45]
12 159 ms 162 ms 155 ms 66.198.96.58
13 248 ms 241 ms 398 ms te7-4.dr9.mtl.iweb.com [184.107.1.110]
14 218 ms 222 ms 236 ms 72.55.128.44
15 274 ms 278 ms 282 ms 184.107.107.176

I transferred from the lagfest over on overcrowed behemoth to goblin, and it's not quite as bad, but during peak I still see several second delays on my cast time.
I've done pingtest which had me under 30, had someone from my isp (time warner cable) and they said nothing seems to be the problem.
I don't get this issue on other game, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Axgard]

For now i using UDP proxy directly to Canada. Latency lowered a bit, but still to high.
And is not a useful way, coz i must pay for proxy too. =)

[Raist]

i get a lot of lag as well.
does this sow any signs as to why I lag so much?


2 32 ms 30 ms 29 ms cpe-75-80-208-1.hawaii.res.rr.com [75.80.208.1]

3 13 ms 13 ms 15 ms 24.25.231.225
4 16 ms 16 ms 14 ms tge0-5-0-7.milnhixd01r.hawaii.rr.com [72.129.46.192]
5 64 ms 68 ms 67 ms agg31.lsancarc01r.socal.rr.com [72.129.45.0]
6 66 ms 68 ms 63 ms bu-ether16.lsancarc0yw-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.102]
7 67 ms 66 ms 62 ms 107.14.19.86
8 78 ms 79 ms 81 ms ix-5-3-0-0.tcore2.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [64.86.252.165]
9 164 ms * 159 ms if-22-2.tcore2.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [66.198.144.73]
10 157 ms 160 ms 154 ms if-11-3.tcore2.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net [66.198.144.58]
11 159 ms 157 ms 184 ms if-3-2.tcore1.W6C-Montreal.as6453.net [66.198.96.45]
12 159 ms 162 ms 155 ms 66.198.96.58
13 248 ms 241 ms 398 ms te7-4.dr9.mtl.iweb.com [184.107.1.110]
14 218 ms 222 ms 236 ms 72.55.128.44
15 274 ms 278 ms 282 ms 184.107.107.176

I transferred from the lagfest over on overcrowed behemoth to goblin, and it's not quite as bad, but during peak I still see several second delays on my cast time.
I've done pingtest which had me under 30, had someone from my isp (time warner cable) and they said nothing seems to be the problem.
I don't get this issue on other game, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

you first run into trouble getting to that www.eidos.com webserver (that's not your gameserver by the way, it's the IP for about a dozen websites--the Canada IP your game uses starts with 199) when coming across California to Illinois, then over the border into Canada on the TATA segments (as6453). Notice how the latency doubles AFTER you hit L.A.--and you had one packet get dropped. That San Jose area has been suffering from congestion problems for a long time now. That just stacks with the latency in Canada to further compound what might otherwise be tolerable. I can run 50-100ms from SC (even the last hops into SE's servers), and it's still manageable even with the packet losses I sometimes get in the DC/VA area.

Edit:
well, crap... TWC changed the routing again. They've moved me back towards Charlotte and Cogent again. When I was going to Raleigh and using TATA the last couple weeks, I was getting nice numbers through DC/VA (50-80ms almost all the way), but was getting around 40% packet loss between Herndon/Ashburn. This route may wind up being much cleaner though, even if the times are a bit higher along the way. Will have to run the pathpings on it over the next couple weeks to see how it holds up and let them know:

Tracing route to 199.91.189.74 over a maximum of 30 hops

<initial hops removed for security>
  4    25 ms    26 ms    22 ms  24.93.64.130
  5    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  bu-ether44.atlngamq46w-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [107.14.19.46]
  6    28 ms    29 ms    27 ms  107.14.19.11
  7    81 ms    78 ms    78 ms  te0-0-0-10.ccr21.atl02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.109]
  8    81 ms    78 ms    81 ms  be2050.ccr21.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.165]
  9    90 ms    94 ms    89 ms  be2168.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.94]
 10    95 ms    93 ms    96 ms  be2150.mpd21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.130]
 11   111 ms   113 ms   112 ms  be2108.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.134]
 12    52 ms    50 ms    49 ms  38.122.42.34
 13    64 ms    64 ms    63 ms  10.2.2.1
 14    65 ms    65 ms    65 ms  192.34.76.2
 15    65 ms    65 ms    66 ms  199.91.189.234
 16    63 ms    64 ms    64 ms  199.91.189.74

[GrimmWulf]

LOL quit your crying, try playing over here in Australia, then you will see what real delay is like.

[Axgard]

LOL quit your crying, try playing over here in Australia, then you will see what real delay is like.

LOL, do you realize what we all trying to say same thing about troubles while playing not from CA/NA regions? =)

[ZohnoReecho]

i get a lot of lag as well.
does this sow any signs as to why I lag so much?


2 32 ms 30 ms 29 ms cpe-75-80-208-1.hawaii.res.rr.com [75.80.208.1]

3 13 ms 13 ms 15 ms 24.25.231.225
4 16 ms 16 ms 14 ms tge0-5-0-7.milnhixd01r.hawaii.rr.com [72.129.46.
192]
5 64 ms 68 ms 67 ms agg31.lsancarc01r.socal.rr.com [72.129.45.0]
6 66 ms 68 ms 63 ms bu-ether16.lsancarc0yw-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [66.10
9.6.102]
7 67 ms 66 ms 62 ms 107.14.19.86
8 78 ms 79 ms 81 ms ix-5-3-0-0.tcore2.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [64.
86.252.165]
9 164 ms * 159 ms if-22-2.tcore2.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [66.198.1
44.73]
10 157 ms 160 ms 154 ms if-11-3.tcore2.CT8-Chicago.as6453.net [66.198.14
4.58]
11 159 ms 157 ms 184 ms if-3-2.tcore1.W6C-Montreal.as6453.net [66.198.96
.45]
12 159 ms 162 ms 155 ms 66.198.96.58
13 248 ms 241 ms 398 ms te7-4.dr9.mtl.iweb.com [184.107.1.110]
14 218 ms 222 ms 236 ms 72.55.128.44
15 274 ms 278 ms 282 ms 184.107.107.176

I transferred from the lagfest over on overcrowed behemoth to goblin, and it's not quite as bad, but during peak I still see several second delays on my cast time.
I've done pingtest which had me under 30, had someone from my isp (time warner cable) and they said nothing seems to be the problem.
I don't get this issue on other game, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

That's not a game server.

IPs are on http://www.arrstatus.com/. Just put your mouse on the server name.

[Kallisti]

130ms isn't perfectly playable by all means.

130ms is fine. So long as you're not playing vs some guy with 30ms you're winning, and seeing as all the guys playing on EU servers will probably have same ping as you then there is no issue at all. There is tons of time to avoid telegraphed attacks.

If you can't play with a piddly 130ms ping then the problem is behind the keyboard aka you.

[KraggyKor]

130ms is fine. So long as you're not playing vs some guy with 30ms you're winning, and seeing as all the guys playing on EU servers will probably have same ping as you then there is no issue at all. There is tons of time to avoid telegraphed attacks.

If you can't play with a piddly 130ms ping then the problem is behind the keyboard aka you.

How true.

I've raided in WOW and LOTRO on NA servers with 'ping' times of at least 150 and at times 250 without any noticeable problems. People in NA and EU have been playing FFXI for nearly 10 years with whatever 'ping' times we get to Japan without ANY PROBLEM due to it.

I can play this game just fine with 130, the only problem I have is like that suffered even by JP players with 30 'ping' and that is the 300ms position update stupidity.

[Axgard]

130ms is fine. So long as you're not playing vs some guy with 30ms you're winning, and seeing as all the guys playing on EU servers will probably have same ping as you then there is no issue at all. There is tons of time to avoid telegraphed attacks.

If you can't play with a piddly 130ms ping then the problem is behind the keyboard aka you.

You are wrong in basics. If you talking about PVP then pings must be aggregated. Yours both 130-150ms becomes 300ms between you hit the button to when your opponent see your character animation and can start react. Plus server lag which triple the latency. In result we have about time lag in ~1 second, minimum.