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    Can nothing but agree to this. Down to its core, it's the same issues that has annoyed me in practically every MMO I've tried apart from WoW: The gameplay is nowhere near fluid.

    Sadly to me, FFXIV ranks at the bottom. During the times I've used a good VPN and gotten near acceptable ping, the clunkiness is probably right on par with how SWTOR feels, if you don't account for the frustration of getting your off GCD abilities off.

    I don't really hold much hope things will change. These are all base framework mechanics in the game, yet to see a developer do something about such things. Both SWTOR and Rift remain clunky despite being active for years with supposedly large budget backing and/or dedicated developers. Yet the same, most basic things that turn people off at first sight are still there.

    I've come to terms though. Appearantly fluidity is just very hard to get right as a developer. I enjoy the game at large and the gameplay isn't deterring me, even if I agree it can be a very off putting thing for a new player trying the game.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I have been playing smn since day 1 and never have i seen this happen
    you've never seen a pet switch from Steady to Guard?

    before you comment, actually test it lol..

    if you have a pet on steady and then tell it to cast something it will switch to Guard

    edit:

    Well i say to Guard.. its probably top whichever stance you had it in prior to pressing steady
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    I just don't get posts like this. If it's so boring then don't play?

    I get what you're saying, that you're an FF fan so want to persevere because of that, but if you're bored now then just wait until you get to level 50. If you're not enjoying it then you're best just trying to find something that does entertain you.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I just don't get posts like this. If it's so boring then don't play?

    I get what you're saying, that you're an FF fan so want to persevere because of that, but if you're bored now then just wait until you get to level 50. If you're not enjoying it then you're best just trying to find something that does entertain you.
    You misunderstood the OP. Nowhere does he say he's bored. In fact, he says he loves the game and enjoys it very much, but that there are some very serious problem with how the game plays that he would like to see fixed.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I just don't get posts like this. If it's so boring then don't play?

    I get what you're saying, that you're an FF fan so want to persevere because of that, but if you're bored now then just wait until you get to level 50. If you're not enjoying it then you're best just trying to find something that does entertain you.
    I don't think you read his post...
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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarMarmot View Post
    You misunderstood the OP. Nowhere does he say he's bored.
    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    it's flawed and it's boring
    Nope, didn't misunderstand at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by SynMaris View Post
    I don't think you read his post...
    I don't think you read his post. Maybe double check things before criticizing others
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    Last edited by TeganLaron; 11-10-2013 at 12:59 AM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by wormed View Post
    The people who complain about off GCD animations, here's an idea: adapt.
    The people who skim posts and then reply to them, here's an idea: actually read.

    I have no problem adapting, I have a problem with the fact that I need to adapt to something so absurd in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Nope, didn't misunderstand at all.
    Yes you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I don't think you read his post. Maybe double check things before criticizing others
    I wrote the post. Do I qualify to tell you what the context is intended to mean?

    Read that sentence again, then read that whole paragraph (daunting task I know, 5 sentences, I believe in you!)

    Then tell me which game I'm calling dated, flawed and boring, and which game I'm saying I love.

    Because I'm quitting a game I've heavily raided on for 8 years in the middle of a raid tier right as they announce a new expansion for a game I think is boring, right?

    Remember when I said to keep things civil? Try it.
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    Your post Borfin, almost mirrors my mentality about the game a month ago. However, after no developer responses to the obvious flaws despite a plethora of video evidence presented by users, inclines me to believe that they will not fix the problems in a timely manner if at all, making it very hard to want to stick with the game long term. As it stands now I would not recommend FF14 to any of my friends as saying, the game has a lot of potential and would be really good if they fixed some key issues but I don't think they actually will, is a pretty poor enticement.
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    a MMO is often not as smooth as a FPS or some other game where multiple functions can be initiated at once. They want you to take into account having time delays and limitations like GCD's, and obviously they want animations to be accounted for as well. I dont really see the issue there, its just you wanting to do things faster..well you cant, so work with what you can do. This is not a fighting game or an adventure game, its a 3-d simulation of a tactical turn by turn game and thus your abilities are locked down within an economy of of gcd's, casting times and animation delays to represent turns. Otherwise everyone would be leaping and casting like flying light spawning monkeys from all over the battlefield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladenite81 View Post
    This is not a fighting game or an adventure game, its a 3-d simulation of a tactical turn by turn game and thus your abilities are locked down within an economy of of gcd's, casting times and animation delays to represent turns.
    I must admit, I always enjoy these "it's a turn based game" responses.
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