[To the devs] please dont make DARK KNIGHTS as tanking class

[Bluevann]

There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class.

Except, all jobs use the same weapon the root class does, and Dark Knight was never a sword/shield job. Red Mage is more likely.

[Jocelyn]

Except, all jobs use the same weapon the root class does, and Dark Knight was never a sword/shield job. Red Mage is more likely.

Again, DRK started as a sword and shield class(job what have you). Have you learned nothing from this thread?

[Obreck]

Except, all jobs use the same weapon the root class does, and Dark Knight was never a sword/shield job. Red Mage is more likely.

Except it was in its original form:

[PapesseLudovique]

Its bad enough that they made Bard an archer extension. Should have been its own caster class. Summoners should use whips too.
Not really sure how they'll do Dark Knight, but I'm pretty certain its not going to be traditional.

[Bluevann]

I still don't see it likely. A lot of people think that Dark Knight HAS to come from Gladiator because DRK and PLD have always been the yin and yang of each other, but then we could argue that the same goes for White Mage and Black Mage. Yet, they do not share the root class, so why should DRK and PLD? True, Cecil had a shield and sword, but that, as far as I'm aware (forgive me, I haven't played IV in at least 15 years) that was deeply related to the fact that Cecil's plot rounded around him being both a Paladin and a Dark Knight. A change of weapon would've been off. Throughout the rest of the Final Fantasy series, DRK was always displayed with two-handed weapons. And I hope that is what it will stay as.

[PapesseLudovique]

Except, all jobs use the same weapon the root class does, and Dark Knight was never a sword/shield job.

Yeah it was. Dark knights, were essentially anti-paladins.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L...nal_Fantasy_II)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Knight

[Sephirah]

I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does. Even then, however, there is not evidence to support that it would be a tank job. Both Summoner (DD) and Scholar (Healer) come from the Arcanist (DD) class.

There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class. If anything, this would be a great DPS with both damage and survival skills from Gladiator.

I agree, and while I personally would like to see the DRK soul branch from Gladiator, I have to wonder what our rotation would be like. We couldn't use rage of halone combos or we'd pull off the paladin, and hitting fast blade/riot blade over and over doesn't sound as appealing.

Gladiator itself though does have access to a lot of useful DPS cross class abilities, so I guess depending on what other class they let us use it might be interesting enough. If I had to guess, I'd say they'd limit us to GLA/THM/LNC.

That would maybe give us access to abilities like:
Blood for Blood
Invigorate
Impulse Drive
Life Surge
Swiftcast
Scathe
Aetherial Manipulation (I wish)


And to the people saying it can't come from glad because they have a shield... well, what's so hard to believe about the DRK soul restricting you from equipping one. Unequip your shield and notice how exposed you feel.

The 1h swords already look pretty huge...


You could also say that because of FFIV where Cecil, a Dark Knight becomes a Paladin, they already have an established connection between the two. Who's to say a Paladin can't become a Dark Knight.

[PapesseLudovique]

Yeah it was. Dark knights, were essentially anti-paladins.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L...nal_Fantasy_II)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Knight

They were a lot like Jedi.
Paladin = Jedi knights devoted to protection/healing
Sith = Devoted to destruction/corruption

(brainfart. quoted rather than edited)

[DenzelTaru]

I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does.

Not that its a part of the OP but wouldnt it make sense to branch off Marauder? i know other game lore has a character turn from a DRK into a PLD but that wouldnt fit the current lore of FFXIV.. so you complete the GLD storyline, i cannot remember exactly what happens but basically you save the day as a do gooder and then what someone approaches you and says "hey man, be bad for once" i dunno.. i mean i guess you could be approached by the bad guys you are fighting..

but seen as MRD is all about power and getting stronger.. to me.. in a lore sense it would make more sense for it to branch from that..

earlier they mentioned that new advanced jobs could appear that require more than one job to use.. WAR + BLM = DRK ?

[Alkimi]

Who knows what they'll do when they eventually branch some more classes off. The trouble with Gladiator in particular is that all of it's abilities are geared towards tanking so I'm not really sure where they can go from there other than to another tank job. But conversely something like Conjurer can easily be turned into a DPS/Healer hybrid job, maybe Geomancer or something.

Personally I think classes should have been scrapped in ARR or branched off at a much earlier level to allow more diversity but it seems it's too late for that.