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  1. #11
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    realmreborn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Isn't DK the class that uses their own HP to increase dmg ala soul eater? Kind of goes backwards in design to have it as a tank.
    They want to make it like Wow DK tank
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  2. #12
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    why do you belive dark knight will be a tank and where did you actually hear that we will actually see a dark knight job any time soon?
    Why wouldn't it be..? Even in other FF games (Won't mention XI since I know how this community gets) they weren't "tanky" in the generalized sense, but Yoshida is going the more western MMORPG approach with class design, so it's not really the same style FF. So it's not odd to expect it to be a tank class just because of that.
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  3. #13
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Why wouldn't it be..? Even in other FF games (Won't mention XI since I know how this community gets) they weren't "tanky" in the generalized sense, but Yoshida is going the more western MMORPG approach with class design, so it's not really the same style FF. So it's not odd to expect it to be a tank class just because of that.
    Yeah, but they are a pure DPS class. I would understand it if jobs could fulfill two or more roles, but they are limited to one in ARR. FF series has DK as DPS. Ironically, you actually sacrifice HP to do more dmg. The complete opposite of mitigation/tanking. That would be akin to saying Dragoon could also be a tank.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by realmreborn View Post
    They want to make it like Wow DK tank
    Who is they?
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Who is they?
    Yoshi and his pals
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  6. #16
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    Droja Khamazom
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    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does. Even then, however, there is not evidence to support that it would be a tank job. Both Summoner (DD) and Scholar (Healer) come from the Arcanist (DD) class.

    There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class. If anything, this would be a great DPS with both damage and survival skills from Gladiator.
    You're not the first person i saw say this.. but why are you guys assuming it would come from Gladiator? Dark Knights generally use 2 handed weapons it would probably spawn from a Marauder(30) with a Thaumaturge(15) sub if I had to make a guess.

    I mean it's all guess work at this point, but given to how Dark Knights have been treated in the past, I'd guess Warrior over Gladiator.
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  7. #17
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    and after all i think the OP is only fearing DK to be tank because he belives WAR was actually forced into being a tank, while in older FF games WARs & Knights have practically shared the same role, just with different skill sets.
    i'm not saying it's impossible for DK to end up being a tank, but it sounds rather delusional thinking about the DKs role.and that is to be a suicide bomber that casts black magic, simple as that
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  8. #18
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    Cherish Morida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico_Of_Awesome View Post
    Dark Knights generally use 2 handed weapons
    Wrong in every regard. Only in 11. They generally are sword and board.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by realmreborn View Post
    Yoshi and his pals

    When did they say this? Source?
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocelyn View Post
    Wrong in every regard. Only in 11. They generally are sword and board.
    I don't remember Cecil ever having a shield as a Dark Knight and he is the Iconic Dark Knight. He used a Sword yes, but no shield. (I personally never equipped him with one.) and Dissidia he certainly did not use a shield.) There were some generic Dark Knights in Tactics that weren't even really Dark Knights in the Tactics games they were more Paladins with Blue Mage Skills, I don't really count them, since everyone thinks of Cecil, and his skill set.

    (Hell even Leon in FF2 did not use a shield... soooo yeah the Iconic DKs do not use shields.)

    I mean if we're counting the tactic ones (which again weren't really even DKs..) then sure.
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