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    realmreborn's Avatar
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    [To the devs] please dont make DARK KNIGHTS as tanking class

    My beloved warrior was forced to be tank and now DK no thanks
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    why do you belive dark knight will be a tank and where did you actually hear that we will actually see a dark knight job any time soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    why do you belive dark knight will be a tank and where did you actually hear that we will actually see a dark knight job any time soon?
    Why wouldn't it be..? Even in other FF games (Won't mention XI since I know how this community gets) they weren't "tanky" in the generalized sense, but Yoshida is going the more western MMORPG approach with class design, so it's not really the same style FF. So it's not odd to expect it to be a tank class just because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Why wouldn't it be..? Even in other FF games (Won't mention XI since I know how this community gets) they weren't "tanky" in the generalized sense, but Yoshida is going the more western MMORPG approach with class design, so it's not really the same style FF. So it's not odd to expect it to be a tank class just because of that.
    Yeah, but they are a pure DPS class. I would understand it if jobs could fulfill two or more roles, but they are limited to one in ARR. FF series has DK as DPS. Ironically, you actually sacrifice HP to do more dmg. The complete opposite of mitigation/tanking. That would be akin to saying Dragoon could also be a tank.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Right. There's no possible way they can make a job do something different than what the base class does. That certainly has not been done with any second job currently in the game right now, and can't possibly be done for any future jobs.

    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Right. There's no possible way they can make a job do something different than what the base class does. That certainly has not been done with any second job currently in the game right now, and can't possibly be done for any future jobs.

    Nope.
    Um... can you say Arcanist > Scholar? ARC is a base DPS class but its second job is healer. SO... yes you can make a job that is opposite its base class.

    I think it would be interesting to have DRK as a tank class as someone mentioned make it a tank that greatly debuffs the mobs and steals its abilities, HP and the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RynaultB View Post
    Um... can you say Arcanist > Scholar? ARC is a base DPS class but its second job is healer. SO... yes you can make a job that is opposite its base class.

    I think it would be interesting to have DRK as a tank class as someone mentioned make it a tank that greatly debuffs the mobs and steals its abilities, HP and the sort.
    Seravi was being really sarcastic in her comment, and I believe you missed the point. Her point was that it's entirely possible that a job could do something radically different from what it's base class did without a whole lot of effort (although, as stated before in the case of a possible Gladiator > Dark Knight, the Gladiator's abilities would need to be strongly retooled in order to make the class a viable damage dealer and make it feel more like a dark knight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Right. There's no possible way they can make a job do something different than what the base class does. That certainly has not been done with any second job currently in the game right now, and can't possibly be done for any future jobs.

    Nope.
    This is why any future jobs need to have a new Base Class.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does. Even then, however, there is not evidence to support that it would be a tank job. Both Summoner (DD) and Scholar (Healer) come from the Arcanist (DD) class.

    There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class. If anything, this would be a great DPS with both damage and survival skills from Gladiator.
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    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does. Even then, however, there is not evidence to support that it would be a tank job. Both Summoner (DD) and Scholar (Healer) come from the Arcanist (DD) class.

    There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class. If anything, this would be a great DPS with both damage and survival skills from Gladiator.
    You're not the first person i saw say this.. but why are you guys assuming it would come from Gladiator? Dark Knights generally use 2 handed weapons it would probably spawn from a Marauder(30) with a Thaumaturge(15) sub if I had to make a guess.

    I mean it's all guess work at this point, but given to how Dark Knights have been treated in the past, I'd guess Warrior over Gladiator.
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