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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Considering the marauder/warrior storyline, I am only guessing that Dark Knight will stem from Marauder -- not Gladiator. I don't see it being a tank, but I do see it capable of taking heavy hits (if ever needed). Of course... this is all speculation. We won't know until it's released, blah blah blah.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbrewer225 View Post
    while we are on the subject DO NOT MAKE NINJA A TANK. that is all.
    SE originally intended ninja to be a DPS in FFXI, but it was the community that found ways to 'turn ninja into a tank'. Eventually SE decided to follow the lead of the community, and made ninja more 'tanking friendly'. I could see ninja being the dps counterpart of a samurai tank (two jobs branching from the same class).
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    and after all i think the OP is only fearing DK to be tank because he belives WAR was actually forced into being a tank, while in older FF games WARs & Knights have practically shared the same role, just with different skill sets.
    i'm not saying it's impossible for DK to end up being a tank, but it sounds rather delusional thinking about the DKs role.and that is to be a suicide bomber that casts black magic, simple as that
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    Am I the only one that wants to see DARK KNIGHT as a healer?
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    I'd like a DK tank, but honestly warrior is too much like the life-leech already.

    Still, More tanks is more fun!
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    Alenna Nightmoon
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    The way he spoke of it in this interview and others Yoshida seems to be leaning towards making Dark Knight a dps job for Gladiator. As he states certain future jobs may highly modify their base class abilities to make them better suited for other roles.

    So future Gladiator/Marauder jobs could very easily be dps, its almost certain in fact.

    Personally I'm hoping the tank class is a dodge/parry/agility based tank.
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    Last edited by Obreck; 11-09-2013 at 09:19 AM.

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    did everyone forget Dark knight in FF10-2 .... Huge swords
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    Its bad enough that they made Bard an archer extension. Should have been its own caster class. Summoners should use whips too.
    Not really sure how they'll do Dark Knight, but I'm pretty certain its not going to be traditional.
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    I still don't see it likely. A lot of people think that Dark Knight HAS to come from Gladiator because DRK and PLD have always been the yin and yang of each other, but then we could argue that the same goes for White Mage and Black Mage. Yet, they do not share the root class, so why should DRK and PLD? True, Cecil had a shield and sword, but that, as far as I'm aware (forgive me, I haven't played IV in at least 15 years) that was deeply related to the fact that Cecil's plot rounded around him being both a Paladin and a Dark Knight. A change of weapon would've been off. Throughout the rest of the Final Fantasy series, DRK was always displayed with two-handed weapons. And I hope that is what it will stay as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I think he's operating off the assumption that it will branch from the Gladiator class like Paladin does. Even then, however, there is not evidence to support that it would be a tank job. Both Summoner (DD) and Scholar (Healer) come from the Arcanist (DD) class.

    There is no reason that Paladin (Tank) and Dark Knight (DD) can't come from the Gladiator (Tank) class. If anything, this would be a great DPS with both damage and survival skills from Gladiator.
    I agree, and while I personally would like to see the DRK soul branch from Gladiator, I have to wonder what our rotation would be like. We couldn't use rage of halone combos or we'd pull off the paladin, and hitting fast blade/riot blade over and over doesn't sound as appealing.

    Gladiator itself though does have access to a lot of useful DPS cross class abilities, so I guess depending on what other class they let us use it might be interesting enough. If I had to guess, I'd say they'd limit us to GLA/THM/LNC.

    That would maybe give us access to abilities like:
    Blood for Blood
    Invigorate
    Impulse Drive
    Life Surge
    Swiftcast
    Scathe
    Aetherial Manipulation (I wish)


    And to the people saying it can't come from glad because they have a shield... well, what's so hard to believe about the DRK soul restricting you from equipping one. Unequip your shield and notice how exposed you feel.

    The 1h swords already look pretty huge...


    You could also say that because of FFIV where Cecil, a Dark Knight becomes a Paladin, they already have an established connection between the two. Who's to say a Paladin can't become a Dark Knight.
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 11-09-2013 at 10:56 AM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Who knows what they'll do when they eventually branch some more classes off. The trouble with Gladiator in particular is that all of it's abilities are geared towards tanking so I'm not really sure where they can go from there other than to another tank job. But conversely something like Conjurer can easily be turned into a DPS/Healer hybrid job, maybe Geomancer or something.

    Personally I think classes should have been scrapped in ARR or branched off at a much earlier level to allow more diversity but it seems it's too late for that.
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    Last edited by Alkimi; 11-09-2013 at 09:49 AM.

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