Aimed attacks (Flaming Arrow, Sacred Soil, Shadowflare) and controller

[JayCommon]

A good keyboard player is just better than a good controller player because the keyboard can use the mouse.

I just don't agree with this statement is all. A good player is a good player regardless of the hardware he/she uses to perform the task. Repetition and remedial adaptability will allow anyone with any sort of 'skill' to learn and progress past the initial barriers imposed.

Now to say that, when dealing with the AoE aimed attacks, it may be a little harder to get used to on controller is perfectly valid. Sure, it's probably easier on a PC where you can just click the ground immediately. It is also very easy to become accustomed to what you need to do on a controller to do it effectively.

Example: When I run AK, on the first lunatic mobs I always start the exact same way. Windbite, Flaming Arrow during cooldown, Venomous Bite. Most (competent) archers will do something similar, at least regarding the two DoT moves. My Flaming Arrow is always down with more than enough time for me to hit Venomous Bite on time, and in perfect positioning. Countless times I have my Arrow move out before a SMN has his Shadow Flare out, when the SMN starts his rotation with a Shadow Flare. I doubt I have played with nothing but PS3 players, and so far I haven't grouped with a DPS as efficient as me. I'm not saying they aren't out there, I'm just saying I play on PS3 and I can hang with top dogs in any situation.

[ispano]

I just don't agree with this statement is all. A good player is a good player regardless of the hardware he/she uses to perform the task. Repetition and remedial adaptability will allow anyone with any sort of 'skill' to learn and progress past the initial barriers imposed.

Now to say that, when dealing with the AoE aimed attacks, it may be a little harder to get used to on controller is perfectly valid. Sure, it's probably easier on a PC where you can just click the ground immediately. It is also very easy to become accustomed to what you need to do on a controller to do it effectively.

Example: When I run AK, on the first lunatic mobs I always start the exact same way. Windbite, Flaming Arrow during cooldown, Venomous Bite. Most (competent) archers will do something similar, at least regarding the two DoT moves. My Flaming Arrow is always down with more than enough time for me to hit Venomous Bite on time, and in perfect positioning. Countless times I have my Arrow move out before a SMN has his Shadow Flare out, when the SMN starts his rotation with a Shadow Flare. I doubt I have played with nothing but PS3 players, and so far I haven't grouped with a DPS as efficient as me. I'm not saying they aren't out there, I'm just saying I play on PS3 and I can hang with top dogs in any situation.

Firstly, Shadowflare is a 3 second cast. So unless the Summoner uses Swift Cast for it, anyone can get Flaming Arrow out before it. Secondly, what the person was likely referring to, is that with any given game, if player skill is perfectly equal(which is typically impossible and just makes the argument more annoying), or better yet NO skill involved so as to remove the random human element, one control method will be superior to another. How much depends on the game type and such. The gap would be larger on something like a FPS.

[Reiterpallasch]

I just don't agree with this statement is all. A good player is a good player regardless of the hardware he/she uses to perform the task. Repetition and remedial adaptability will allow anyone with any sort of 'skill' to learn and progress past the initial barriers imposed.

You can play the game with your feet if you wanted and be "good" at it, but that doesn't mean that you won't be better with your hands.

Somebody can be good with either a keyboard OR a controller, sure, but IMO they have a higher potential by using keyboard/mouse.