Ideas to balance leveling and endgame

[Starplayer]

My friend and I were discussing FATE, and how they give ridiculous amounts of exp (don't stop reading lol). From that, the conversation moved into the general balance of progression. At this point, the game is a breeze to 50 (literally 2 days with FATE) and then a ceaseless grind to gear up at endgame. We were discussing ways to change this and we came up with this, tell me what you think:

- Adjust exp gain on all forms of leveling to match dungeons (FATE, guildhests, Leves, Hunting log etc.)
- Raise mythos cap to 400 - 500 per week

I know it sounds simple, maybe too simple and I'm sure you'll all let me know if I'm overlooking something. My reasoning is that every subscription based mmo NEEDS a time sync in order to keep their subs. The problem is that currently, the time sync is unbalanced as it is all in endgame (with the 300 mythos cap per week). This, in turn leads to complaining about both (FATE leveling is too fast - endgame is too much of a grind etc). to me the solution sounds simple, create a balance with that time sync, spread it out so neither leveling nor endgame gets boring too fast.

Using what I have suggested above would mean that leveling isn't a blur, it's instead a fast progression through levels while learning the intricacies of your chosen job, and endgame isn't a long, relentless grind. What are your thoughts?

[EzriNuru]

They are fixing exp gain in 2.1 and will add plenty of extra time syncs.

[Starplayer]

They are fixing exp gain in 2.1 and will add plenty of extra time syncs.

As far as I know, they're only increasing xp in dungeons which in turn does nothing to balance the overall character progression. It's still a breeze to level, and a grind to gear up at endgame

[EzriNuru]

They are increasing combat class leve exp as well. Also in 2.1 they will be adding many new ways to obtain tomestones which include three new dungeons, extreme primals, beastmen dailys, and treasure hunts to name some of the confirmed things.

[Starplayer]

They are increasing combat class leve exp as well. Also in 2.1 they will be adding many new ways to obtain tomestones which include three new dungeons, extreme primals, beastmen dailys, and treasure hunts to name some of the confirmed things.

With all due respect you're not understanding my post. They're not doing anything to slow down FATE and they're not raising the mythos cap. Leveling - endgame will remain unbalanced.

[Budi]

It's a breeze but also the most boring and most dull part of the game. In theory you can get to 50 in 2 days, but I would kill mysefl after just 1 day.

[Starplayer]

It's a breeze but also the most boring and most dull part of the game. In theory you can get to 50 in 2 days, but I would kill mysefl after just 1 day.

Precisely! But people will always "take the path of least resistance" and simply FATE grind. In my opinion, it subtracts from what should be a fun part of the experience (getting to 50). Why not make leveling just a bit slower by nerfing FATE and making endgame a little faster by raising the mythos cap?

[EzriNuru]

I apologize for any confusion, I just wanted to let you know what changes are confirmed in 2.1 at this time. If SE plans to nerf fates or increase mythos cap then they have done a good job of hiding it. Most Dev posts regarding the subject talk about how increasing dungeon exp and leve exp while also adding in many new ways to obtain tomestones is the way they plan to handle exactly the issue you are bringing up.

[peaches]

Aside from FATE exp the single biggest problem is lack of things to do to farm your tomes. I've done WP so many times my eyes are bleeding, I need 20 runs to get any single piece of crafted gear now.

The easiest thing they could do is introduce hard mode versions of lower level dungeons that give tomes, or also make queuing for a lower level dungeon give tomes to a level 50 - maybe 60-75 philos. It'd give us a nice break from two dungeons none of us want to see anymore, and help the lower levels get queues.

[EzriNuru]

Aside from FATE exp the single biggest problem is lack of things to do to farm your tomes. I've done WP so many times my eyes are bleeding, I need 20 runs to get any single piece of crafted gear now.

The easiest thing they could do is introduce hard mode versions of lower level dungeons that give tomes, or also make queuing for a lower level dungeon give tomes to a level 50 - maybe 60-75 philos. It'd give us a nice break from two dungeons none of us want to see anymore, and help the lower levels get queues.

You have literally quoted word for word the changes that are coming in 2.1!