Think will get any info this week on the Lodestone? :P

[Starlord]

"Patch Notes" don't count as information :P

theirs Thursday and Friday left.. Will we get info..

Perhaps another Dungeon peek on the Grand Companies page?

[Vermilion]

"Patch Notes" don't count as information :P

theirs Thursday and Friday left.. Will we get info..

Perhaps another Dungeon peek on the Grand Companies page?

Doubt it, with SE's latest performance and disappointments, I'm expecting something more along the lines of "Yeah we moved 1.18 in to July", or "We are cutting content from 1.18"

[Starlord]

Doubt it, with SE's latest performance and disappointments, I'm expecting something more along the lines of "Yeah we moved 1.18 in to July", or "We are cutting content from 1.18"

Then that would make them lying then if they did that, 1.17b is excusable because they didnt say what was going to be contained.

Patch 1.18 was explained for the most part what was going to be in the Patch, and could be more who knows, point is.. To keep their Promies to us " Everything on the list from Letter from Producer X is planned to be on the game by the end Summer of 2011" and thats alot of work to implement in a span of 3 months.

So Right now with that being said, I expect alot of new things in Patch 1.18

[ZephyrAM]

Then that would make them lying then if they did that, 1.17b is excusable because they didnt say what was going to be contained.

Patch 1.18 was explained for the most part what was going to be in the Patch, and could be more who knows, point is.. To keep their Promies to us " Everything on the list from Letter from Producer X is planned to be on the game by the end Summer of 2011" and thats alot of work to implement in a span of 3 months.

So Right now with that being said, I expect alot of new things in Patch 1.18

That bolded line isn't exactly true.

What they told us was that the list in the Letter from the Producer showed their plans up until the end of the Summer. Now, look over the list very carefully and note the wording. Anything that says, under the Current Tasks, 'Implementation, Additions, Changes, Introduction, Revisions, or Adjustments' we should get over the course of the Summer. Most likely also anything that doesn't have any Future Tasks associated with it.

However, anything that talks about 'Development, Examination, Planning, Devising, Design, Analysis, Finalization, Revision, or Establishment' bears no promise to be done during the Summer, because the implementation of those all falls under the Future Tasks category, and you may notice that 'Implementation', or one of the other prior words, is a key word for those items in the Future Tasks .


So honestly, there isn't a 'massive' amount of content that they need to get out in the next few months.

[Starlord]

That bolded line isn't exactly true.

What they told us was that the list in the Letter from the Producer showed their plans up until the end of the Summer. Now, look over the list very carefully and note the wording. Anything that says, under the Current Tasks, 'Implementation, Additions, Changes, Introduction, Revisions, or Adjustments' we should get over the course of the Summer. Most likely also anything that doesn't have any Future Tasks associated with it.

However, anything that talks about 'Development, Examination, Planning, Devising, Design, Analysis, Finalization, Revision, or Establishment' bears no promise to be done during the Summer, because the implementation of those all falls under the Future Tasks category, and you may notice that 'Implementation', or one of the other prior words, is a key word for those items in the Future Tasks .


So honestly, there isn't a 'massive' amount of content that they need to get out in the next few months.

This is what Bayohne Confirmed btw:

Originally Posted by Bayohne
To clarify regarding the "plans for summer 2011" discussion; the items that Yoshida listed are things that we are planning to implement before the end of summer. Hopefully that's clearer!

[ZephyrAM]

He was clarifying 'when', not 'what'. Debate had been all over as to whether his 'plans until summer 2011' line meant by the beginning of Summer or by the end of Summer.

[Seif]

That bolded line isn't exactly true.

What they told us was that the list in the Letter from the Producer showed their plans up until the end of the Summer. Now, look over the list very carefully and note the wording. Anything that says, under the Current Tasks, 'Implementation, Additions, Changes, Introduction, Revisions, or Adjustments' we should get over the course of the Summer. Most likely also anything that doesn't have any Future Tasks associated with it.

However, anything that talks about 'Development, Examination, Planning, Devising, Design, Analysis, Finalization, Revision, or Establishment' bears no promise to be done during the Summer, because the implementation of those all falls under the Future Tasks category, and you may notice that 'Implementation', or one of the other prior words, is a key word for those items in the Future Tasks .


So honestly, there isn't a 'massive' amount of content that they need to get out in the next few months.

That's how I saw it too and if you've learned anything from SE's actions since the release it's the importance of these words and the fact that they never do anything than the bare minimum in the cheapest possible way.

[Seif]

Then that would make them lying then if they did that, 1.17b is excusable because they didnt say what was going to be contained.

Patch 1.18 was explained for the most part what was going to be in the Patch, and could be more who knows, point is.. To keep their Promies to us " Everything on the list from Letter from Producer X is planned to be on the game by the end Summer of 2011" and thats alot of work to implement in a span of 3 months.

So Right now with that being said, I expect alot of new things in Patch 1.18

I don't see the logic here.

They already told

A) they're going to release bi-monthly patches

B) they're working as fast as they can to produce new content

C) they're going to release companies in the beginning of the year

and D) they're priority is to follow through on those promises.

As far as I'm concerned they've already let me down in every one of those area's and thus to expect them to suddenly make a it up by doing something un-expected would be pretty naive of me.

I'll wait and see but I expect nothing more than the disappointments this game has offered me thus far. I never expected a patch to be so small it wouldn't be worth downloading but they proved me wrong on that one too.

Part of me is expecting a miracle but all common sense tells me it's not going to happen.

[Xatsh]

Square's released what they said they would the disappointment was from the NA expecting a massive content from a mini patch... you know the a.b.c patches which never have a lot of content.

Honestly I expect nothing until sometime next week. Then I expect more company updates.

[Felis]

"Patch Notes" don't count as information :P

theirs Thursday and Friday left.. Will we get info..

Perhaps another Dungeon peek on the Grand Companies page?

Not in may
Wait until 2nd week in june

Doubt it, with SE's latest performance and disappointments, I'm expecting something more along the lines of "Yeah we moved 1.18 in to July", or "We are cutting content from 1.18"

I wasn't disappointed. The 1.17b patch was what SE said it would be in the german letter, a small patch. No word about some content.