My friend was hacked while logged in

[Ulathskullsplitter]

You honestly believe RMT always use willing workforce and there's no coercing? These are not even the people selling it.

In your logic, children are at fault for being employed by a company using child labor.

There was also that story a few years ago about the chinese prisons forcing inmates to gold farm in WOW. They had 100s of prisoners playing 24/7 to farm gold. Theres just nothing we can do when the chinese are involved. Theyll do what they want.

[Molly_Millions]

SE lawsuit incoming. Get those hacking RMT scum SE!!!

[joshsecret]

why would anyone leave so much money on their person?? its like walking around in the real world with 1m in your purse or wallet... 0.o since beta i have utilized my 2 retainers to their fullest. one is a savings account, one is a spending account. i rarely ever have more than 20k on myself. looks like ill have to truck it to the inn room from now on to talk to them -_-

[Varos]

why would anyone leave so much money on their person?? its like walking around in the real world with 1m in your purse or wallet... 0.o since beta i have utilized my 2 retainers to their fullest. one is a savings account, one is a spending account. i rarely ever have more than 20k on myself. looks like ill have to truck it to the inn room from now on to talk to them -_-

I'll put it out there, plain and simple. I've said it in another thread, may as well here. Even your retainer gil was not safe. Doesn't matter if you had it stored or not, any gil you had was VULNERABLE.

[Alberel]

why would anyone leave so much money on their person?? its like walking around in the real world with 1m in your purse or wallet... 0.o since beta i have utilized my 2 retainers to their fullest. one is a savings account, one is a spending account. i rarely ever have more than 20k on myself. looks like ill have to truck it to the inn room from now on to talk to them -_-

Until now there was no real reason to ever put your gil on your retainer... it's not like it should be possible for anyone to steal it. Hell there's no reason why the retainer would be more secure either... if they can hack your character they can probably hack your retainer.

What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?

[MichuAmane]

I hope this actually discourages people from using RMT. Rather clever sell you the gil then take the gil .. now that's profit margins! Note to Se: how about we get some real coding going on and not just any old person off the street who seems super leet . I personally know someone who could code circles around what has been given to us.

[Zakalwe]

Yep. And stupid people will still continue to buy gil and fund things like this.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if this hack only worked against gil buyers...

But seriously, we can thank such members of our community (may they soon be ex-) for inviting vile organized crime elements into our midst.

[IgnatiusCrumwald]

Until now there was no real reason to ever put your gil on your retainer... it's not like it should be possible for anyone to steal it. Hell there's no reason why the retainer would be more secure either... if they can hack your character they can probably hack your retainer.

What I don't get is why RMT would want to do this... stealing gil directly from players actually harms their own business. Why would anyone buy from them if RMT could just steal it back again?

That's a good question. It was a bit too flashy for a class that likes to remain under the radar. A lot of what RMT does makes little sense. If I had to speculate I'd say that this may not have been RMT but just a run of the mill hack job. They may have even found the exploit, warned SE about it, and nothing was done or it wasn't handled fast enough for their tastes so they decided to make a statement.

[cynralic]

i wish they would come out and explicitly say to those affected how they will be handling it. if they are going to do individual rollbacks does that mean i shouldn't bother playing until they do since all my progress will be reset back? completely stuck in limbo until they do I guess...

[joshsecret]

I'll put it out there, plain and simple. I've said it in another thread, may as well here. Even your retainer gil was not safe. Doesn't matter if you had it stored or not, any gil you had was VULNERABLE.

guess i read the dev reply wrong then. the way i saw it was that retainer money was unaffected, much like the last ban hammer where crafters had their money on hand reduced but retainers were unaffected. i chalked it up to retainers being on a different server/more secure. regardless, im glad i have always and will always treat retainers as a checking/saving accounts. and again why would anyone need all of their money in their pocket?? i find it easier to blow through money faster if i dont store it... just like real life!