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  1. #141
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    last time i saw an item that was for sell at 0gil . i saw it kinda fishy
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  2. #142
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    With the way this game is going in terms of how seemingly easy it is to hack the game, it's only a matter of time before someone does some real damage and hacks their database to get peoples credit card info...
    While this possibility can't be excluded it will be unlikely that they get this from any ingame data unless you are actually giving the number out in a chat somewhere.
    So far all the hacks and hijacks have been done through manipulation of data directly connected to the game, all payment info is stored on completely different systems which can't be accessed by in-game means as far as I know.
    Aside from that, most of the payment methods are being handled by third parties.

    I'm not saying your data is 100% safe, it never is and it never will be as long as it is stored somewhere on the Internet. But it is unlikely that they will get access to that through your character.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    With the way this game is going in terms of how seemingly easy it is to hack the game, it's only a matter of time before someone does some real damage and hacks their database to get peoples credit card info...
    this is the biggest reason I try to convince anyone who has access to it to buy cards that can be converted to and use crysta such as ultimate game card that way no CC info is present
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    While this possibility can't be excluded it will be unlikely that they get this from any ingame data unless you are actually giving the number out in a chat somewhere.
    So far all the hacks and hijacks have been done through manipulation of data directly connected to the game, all payment info is stored on completely different systems which can't be accessed by in-game means as far as I know.
    Aside from that, most of the payment methods are being handled by third parties.

    I'm not saying your data is 100% safe, it never is and it never will be as long as it is stored somewhere on the Internet. But it is unlikely that they will get access to that through your character.
    Card numbers are not stored, they are hashed. Unless of course you are utterly incompetent. Even then there are limits, almost all countries demand a certain level of protection on CC information now.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    And with this HACK being a eye sore so is all the Bots and RMTs solution simple

    Easy to handle the issues . you get 8 employees per server 3 run a day shift 3 run a mid day early AM shift 2 run the graveyard shift
    ($36/hr x 16 hours = $576) + ($24/hr x 8 hours = $192) = $768 per server, per day.

    $768 x 61 servers = $46848 per day total.

    I think that pretty easily explains why your suggestion is never going to happen.
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    Last edited by nugglets; 11-08-2013 at 08:42 PM.

  6. #146
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...057fdd6d4e76ec

    The Yakuza are on route to "fix" the fraudsters!
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  7. #147
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    Maybe the whole "we're going to be taking legal action against this" thing will put a noticeable dent in their operations.... Or then again, it might do nothing at all. I'm curious to see what's going to happen to RMT's after this, and what the next trick up their sleeve is. One thing is for sure, though, SE desperately needs to step up security of what kind of data the servers will blindly accept.

    On another note, sorry to you all that had gil hacked from you I was fortunately not a victim, but I'm dirt poor, so....
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by nugglets View Post
    ($36/hr x 16 hours = $576) + ($24/hr x 8 hours = $192) = $768 per server, per day.

    $768 x 61 servers = $46848 per day total.

    $46,848 / $13.99 Subscription Fee = 655403.52 players purchasing a months access every single day to fund this.

    That's 19,662,105.6 active players every month.

    I think that pretty easily explains why your suggestion is never going to happen.
    lets do this 60 servers x 8 employees = 480 employees time 10$ an hour = 4,800$ times 8 hours a day = 38,400 times 365 days =14,016,000 (yearly) or 1,152,000 monthly

    Take in Se player base of 750,000 times a base of 13.99 = 10,492,500 per month or 125,910,000 (yearly) subtract the two numbers equals 111,894,000 net.

    Other factors to fund this SE makes other games that sell FF15 , Kingdom Hearts , FFXI (over 20mil a year still I would guess) Were talking company profit loss margin here it can be done
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  9. #149
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    Boye Fran
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    lets do this 60 servers x 8 employees = 480 employees time 10$ an hour = 4,800$ times 8 hours a day = 38,400 times 365 days =14,016,000 (yearly) or 1,152,000 monthly

    Take in Se player base of 750,000 times a base of 13.99 = 10,492,500 per month or 125,910,000 (yearly) subtract the two numbers equals 111,894,000 net.

    Other factors to fund this SE makes other games that sell FF15 , Kingdom Hearts , FFXI (over 20mil a year still I would guess) Were talking company profit loss margin here it can be done
    I'm sorry, but what kind of %&$ing jobs are you working? $10 an hour? So, if the job at SE STF doesn't work out, you can just work for Panera Bread!
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    Last edited by BruceyBruceyBangBang; 11-08-2013 at 08:13 PM.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    lets do this 60 servers x 8 employees = 480 employees time 10$ an hour -snip-
    Let me stop you right there.
    Paying people $10 an hour does not mean it costs S-E $10 per hour to hire people.
    Perhaps you should ask your employer sometimes what you are actually costing him besides your own sallary.
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