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    White Mage PSA on Myth Tomes.

    The following is my opinion on end-game raiding. Not looks or anything arbitrary. I feel I have to make this note as my intentions were not clear apparently. This is my preference leaning towards a build centric around Determination followed by Spell speed with crit being lowest priority. It is the general consensus of end-game raiders that Determination trumpts Spell Speed in stat stacking for healers. My advice below is geared towards those that wish to get the biggest upgrades (stat-wise) and spend their myth efficiently.

    Please... Please... Do not waste your first 900 myth on AF2 chest.

    The AF2 chest is not BiS, Determination is much better than spell speed. Also, the people I see who have a simple relic and AF2 body make me cringe very very hard.

    To reiterate:

    AF2 body is not a great FIRST upgrade ( it's not so bad if it's your 10th week of coil and it's your ONLY upgrade because you can't get the damn tunic to drop. )

    If you are looking for an HP/Healing upgrade the Relic+1 is far superior. Disregard this if you never intend to complete coil content, obviously you would get all AF2 as you will never obtain Allagan pieces.

    below is my myth tome spending guide that I made/followed:

    -Thryus +1
    -Hero ring of healing (because strategos never dropped probably save for pants here)
    -Cleric's Culottes
    -Cleric's Boots
    -Cleric's Gloves (many argue that vanya with melds could be better considering your choices are between SS and Crit on this slot)

    There are several slots were you will not have an option for Determination. Those slots are up to the person to decide whether they would like crit or SS. If you decide to go Crit most of the AF2 Jewellery is crit and allagain is determination and SS.

    That should conclude all myth tome purchases and if for any reason you would continue to get AF2 at that point is if Coil RNG isn't favoring you ( 10 wks with out Tunic of Healing dropping :\ )

    Thanks for reading and happy hunting.
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    Last edited by Shiji; 11-08-2013 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Notes

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    hmm I always thought everyone will use myth to get relic+1 first unless they don't know it requires myth...or they really hate darklight...
    Anyway for me I'll just start from parts that drop in coil turn 5 and works way down, I don't think any ONE piece of myth equips can make a very noticeable difference for WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcaloid View Post
    hmm I always thought everyone will use myth to get relic+1 first unless they don't know it requires myth...or they really hate darklight...
    Anyway for me I'll just start from parts that drop in coil turn 5 and works way down, I don't think any ONE piece of myth equips can make a very noticeable difference for WHM.
    You would be suprised with the amount of people who get AF2 body first... staggering. It's fine if you plan to casually gear and don't EVER plan to venture into coil, but if you plan to BiS and get the most out of your character then AF2 body is probably not the best choice.
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    PSA

    Not everyone runs coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incredible View Post
    PSA

    Not everyone runs coil.
    Look up above you and read please. I will update my original post to reflect this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiji View Post
    Please... Please... Do not waste your first 900 myth on AF2 chest.

    The AF2 chest is not BiS, Determination is much better than spell speed. Also, the people I see who have a simple relic and AF2 body make me cringe very very hard.

    To reiterate:

    AF2 body is not a great FIRST upgrade ( it's not so bad if it's your 10th week of coil and it's your ONLY upgrade because you can't get the damn tunic to drop. )

    If you are looking for an HP/Healing upgrade the Relic+1 is far superior. Disregard this if you never intend to complete coil content, obviously you would get all AF2 as you will never obtain Allagan pieces.

    Thank you that is all.
    Just a curious question, is the above bolded statement conclusive?
    Personally I feel SS is better that DET, but I'm willing to listen and would be very happy if anybody can link me to some factual calculation or discussion regarding this matter

    Thanks!!
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    This is if your trying to go for the best possible upgrade in the least amount of time. I honestly don't care about that. I don't have all day everyday to play so I got my body peice kuz I can't breeze through relic quests in a day. I'll get my +1 sometime after I get my relic and either before or after that I'm gonna run coil. There's no deciding factor of getting relic +1 first or never do coil. Not everyone's in a rush to have nothing left to do. Stop pushing your opinions onto everyone
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    Not everyone focuses on OMG TONS OF DAMAGE/HEALING, I for one got the AF2 chest first because I like the white mage look -_-

    I get that +1 is obviously superior stat-wise, but definitely not required to comfortably coil if you have a few AF2 pieces from a vanity point of view.
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    Last edited by Windseraph; 11-08-2013 at 04:31 PM.

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    Depend on how you define your so call 'upgrade'.

    For some people, it's a very big upgrade, fashionwise. Don't force your definition to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Just a curious question, is the above bolded statement conclusive?
    Personally I feel SS is better that DET, but I'm willing to listen and would be very happy if anybody can link me to some factual calculation or discussion regarding this matter

    Thanks!!
    Yes. Even with full Allagan/AF2 gear with only SS on em you'd only be casting 1 extra Cure every 15-20 Cures or something along those lines. Considering you'll almost never stand still to be able to do that, it's just much better to get throughput. It's just insane how much SS you'd need to make this stat worthwhile and atm it's simply impossible.
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