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    Player
    Raikki's Avatar
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90

    Weekly Caps: Worse than Fatigue

    The fatigue system in 1.0 was nearly universally hated, and people rejoiced when it was removed, but here we are in 2.0, and it's back with a vengeance wearing a new disguise.

    At the launch of 1.0, progress was measured in levels (well, ranks), and the pace of that progression was partially limited by fatigue. Fatigue slowed down progression, but you could "push through" and keep going at a reduced rate if you wished, and you could change classes and level freely again. No question, people still hated it. People wanted to be allowed to progress proportional to the amount they played.

    Fast-forward 3 years to the launch of ARR. ARR progression is measured in gear, not levels, and the pace of that progression is severely constrained by brick wall limits of (up to) 8 Coil chests per 8 people and 300 myth tomes per week. This is approximately 3 hours of content per week. You can not "push through". You can not change class and progress freely. In fact, the caps destroy the entire concept of the armoury system by severely crippling the ability to gear alternate jobs.

    I need more than 3 hours of meaningful progression per week, and I want to gear multiple jobs again (beyond darklight). Call me a nolifer if you want, but I think that's reasonable. I know why the limits are there, but a better solution needs to be found. More content and 2.1 will not fix the problem unless the underlying design philosophy is changed.
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    Marcus Deston
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Don't you have other things to do?
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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Yea I'm finding myself burning out now, even though I really enjoy the game. It's all because of the myth cap too. Shame.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    It's temporary, it's to put a barrier as to how far you can go
    It will be removed
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    It's temporary, it's to put a barrier as to how far you can go
    It will be removed
    Proof of that anywhere?
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    I'm the Bloodgaru Queen.

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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 51
    So you're saying...with the myth cap, you're burning out but with no myth cap, you can and will get more myth per week from one dungeon over and over and you're sure you wont burn out?
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    Character
    Puhthetic Fool
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    cap system is good for community to prevent to big of gap between players who play all day and one only play few hour.
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    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Character
    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    "OMG I am burning out because of cap."

    SE removes cap... a week later...

    "OMG I am burning out because I ran out of stuff to do."
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Go level something, craft something or gather something.
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    Character
    Zen Endymion
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    Yay, no noob left behind.
    play all day long = pro
    play casually = noob
    okay...

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