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    PLD/WAR WP

    For those guys who watched the new SR runs in WP in YouTube.
    Just Remember One Detail.
    It Is Very Different when u play with a WAR
    than playing with a
    PLD.
    Wars Cannot Handle the Same Loads
    So Be Very Careful and See What You Can Handle.
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    Public Service Announcement
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    Is this a serious post? I play with a war that tanks entire halls of WP no problem and rarely loses hate on anything.
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    My war can handle the same amount as my pld. The clear time of both with an appropriate setup (war/brd/drg/whm - PLD/BLM/BRD/WHM). There are no problems in either setup, war just takes more effort to play, and requires more skill to execute. In fact, the Tonberry King is easier with a war.

    That said, I'm not arguing that WAR is fine in other content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Is this a serious post? I play with a war that tanks entire halls of WP no problem and rarely loses hate on anything.
    A team built around PLD has done WP in 8 minutes flat. I've not heard of anything under 12 for WAR, and achieving less than 15 requires considerably more effort. This is because PLD has twice the burst eHP of a WAR plus vastly superior mitigation from blocking and Flash's blind effect. Not many people are running around claiming that WP speed-runs can't be done with WAR, but it's invariably a stand-in for a job more suited to the task. PLD can do it with a much lower gear requirement due to scaling directly with damage rate (i.e. any gear weakness is mitigated by abilities), and when fully geared, PLD takes much less damage, leaving the WHM to nuke the field.

    Regardless, lots of jobs get left behind for WP speedruns. Everyone wants the super-easy group, which is PLD/WHM/BRD/BLM. It's the quickest way to the most gil. Though, now that I think about it, every single Twintania run I've seen contains these 4 jobs as well. C'est la vie, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
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    I do agree that in terms of mitigation and eHP PLD will come out on top.

    What I don't agree with is saying that this effects the clear time of WP Speed Runs. Personally, given that I regularly do WP runs with a warrior that pulls entire halls and that there is nothing else to pull I would say that the issue lies with the amount of DPS. I'm able to heal that warrior, keep dots up on 3 mobs along with SF so unless there's a magic way to pull more than an entire hall I do not see how warrior tanks are the problem here. At the end of the day, a well geared/skilled pld or war can tank WP halls no problem and if it's speed runs we're talking about the tank should be well geared at least.
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    Why bring a War to a WP SR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    Why bring a War to a WP SR
    Desperate attempts to show that WAR =PLD, therefore, WAR is good, ppl that say no pls learn to play?

    SERIOUSLY, there are ppl that think that way.
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    WAR is getting buffed for a reason.

    But I don't think any WAR would have a problem with SR WP. If you have any problems with WP you probably need to zoom your camera out.
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