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  1. #11
    Player
    ChrysaorUSon's Avatar
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    King Tycoon
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    IT might be water under the bridge, but it will come up all the time everytime when ppl start appreciating the game and ppl more then maybe it wouldn't come up as much OP.
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  2. #12
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    Sapphires's Avatar
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    Ruby Lux
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Anyone forcing 'speedrun' on the group is 99% of the time the tank.

    As a relic+1 sch with halway decent gear I feel like my gear does give the green light to the tank to be reckless and assume they can try to speedrun even if the DPS are undergeared.

    Its kind of annoying, since I like to play with DF groups for a more chilled out experience with lesser geared people and dont want to speedrun.
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  3. #13
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    My SCH friend and I (BRD) will alternate usually. One day we'll Speedrun sub 15mins, other days we'll exclusively DF together. Sure, the df parties can be bad (recently we had a mnk who broke all his gear mid-dungeon), but I enjoy helping others run WP much quicker if it was a full AF group.

    Just my 2gils
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  4. #14
    Player
    ChrysaorUSon's Avatar
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    King Tycoon
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    It is just, ppl need to be taught, and if knowbody is willing to help or teach them in the game, then they will never learn. Sure the forum's or w/e help's but it is gtting out there in the field that get's you the exp not reading constantly do this, or this or this. So, just find by doing and action's do speak louder than word's.
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  5. #15
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    Davionx's Avatar
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    Character
    Davion Crismorn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Omg there's only 55mins of content per week!!!

    Sorry we can't wait as new people in our group because it will slow us down!!!
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  6. #16
    Player
    ChrysaorUSon's Avatar
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    King Tycoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Impatients = impractical = which leads to failure, everytime
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  7. #17
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    Kaylan Greyashe
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphires View Post
    Anyone forcing 'speedrun' on the group is 99% of the time the tank.

    As a relic+1 sch with halway decent gear I feel like my gear does give the green light to the tank to be reckless and assume they can try to speedrun even if the DPS are undergeared.

    Its kind of annoying, since I like to play with DF groups for a more chilled out experience with lesser geared people and dont want to speedrun.
    As a tank, I have had two WP groups this week where the DPS wanted me to speed run pull. I never really do this and I guess I wasn't doing it exactly right or fast enough and they started having a conversation in party chat about finding a tank that knows how to speed run after the run was over. I told them that the fact I never do speed runs doesn't make me a bad player. They responded "I want 12 min WP runs." We didn't talk the rest of the dungeon.
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  8. #18
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Character
    Kicking Wolf
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eightbit View Post
    Most DF speed runners are generally bad players who can't find real speed runs. Exceptions with some, like me and my healer friend who can turn normal runs up a notch for quickies, with newer dps that still have clue on what they are doing.
    Pretty much this...

    I have joined WP as a tank so many times and had people complain that I wasn't going faster and then we finish faster than they normally do... turns out slow and steady is actually pretty fast. No wipes helps a lot.
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  9. #19
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    Kaylan Greyashe
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Pretty much this...

    I have joined WP as a tank so many times and had people complain that I wasn't going faster and then we finish faster than they normally do... turns out slow and steady is actually pretty fast. No wipes helps a lot.
    Yeah, in the run I mentioned above, we finished at around the 20 minute mark (I think it said we had 72 minutes left when I pulled the last boss). Not 12 minutes like the guy wanted, but not a long run by any means.
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  10. #20
    Player ashikenshin's Avatar
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    Character
    Kyuyuna Shadowsun
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I pull one mob pack at a time when in DF groups. It's slow and steady but less prone to screwups
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