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  1. #11
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    Myric's Avatar
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    Myra Runewaker
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seidaku View Post
    What they need to do is give you more with caps so you have to choose to put them somewhere else. I would say they need to give you 3 times as many with no more than 30% in any given main stat and up to 40% in a sub stat.
    This would be more interesting. Dark Age of Camelot did this when you made a character for the first time. You could put 10 points into str, but after that it would take 2 bonus points for the next str increase. Ffxiv would need to get rid of the amount of points needed to get to the next tier of parry etc for this to work though. So instead of just having to reach a tier to go from 20% parry to 21%, they should let us do 20.1% 20.2% and so on.
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  2. #12
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    Myric's Avatar
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    Myra Runewaker
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by verily View Post
    As an undergeared healer in Turn 5 of Binding Coil I had to respec all my bonus points from MND into VIT in order to survive fireball damage. As I got a new drop here and there, I was able to go back and tweak my point allotment every other week or so to slowly put some points back into MND as my new i90 gear naturally increased my VIT. Once I had enough i90 gear I was able to fully spec back into MND. We also had our OT spec out of VIT and into STR for extra DPS. In fact, our OT has switched back and forth between STR and VIT several times now.
    This is mostly because Crystal Tower was removed and there isn't any ilvl 80 gear. Once it's out in 2.1, this won't matter.
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  3. #13
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    BlackShroudMercs's Avatar
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    Character
    Talion Dracht
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Myric View Post
    All classes from 90% of mmo are all cookie cutter. Only Rift, Dark Age of Camelot, Star Wars Galaxies and a few others would let you have a unique character.
    So we should promote it in this game too? Let's not make it worse, fight to get more stats customizable, or more points in general so your choices will matter more but don't just say "kill it".

    Improve, not remove...
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  4. #14
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    Sapphires's Avatar
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    Character
    Ruby Lux
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    I put all mine into VIT on sch cause the fairy does a bulk of the healing and abilities like lustrate ignore MND.
    A healer with 4200+ hp can carry some very bad HM primal DF groups, get shanked twice in a row by WP tonberries and live etc.
    Ive watched some JP healers play with 4500+ hp and at first I thought it was kinda dumb to allocate+gear so hard for VIT but its an amazing alternate build with a buffer for when things go super bad or you play in mixed company.

    As time goes on and iLevel and stats inflate more, the customizable 30points will be even less of a factor. You do not have to dump the points into your 'primary stat' to function competently at your job.
    Racial base stats have a +/- 6 point stat range, you don't see people shouting for only certain race+job combos in this game do you?, chill.
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  5. #15
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    Syrellaris's Avatar
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    Character
    Syra Whispers
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Not really. While most people will min-max, it does give you another option on tailoring your character, like giving you Paladin some piety for more mana, or your Black Mage some vitality for more HP.

    And you really have to mess with the bonuses when you level Arcanist.

    Bolded part.. Actually you don't.. just dump it all in Int and maybe 2-4 points in vit and you will be fine.
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  6. #16
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Character
    Crystal Rainbow
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    All be it WAR can do VIT or STR or a combo of both and be effective with there self healing abilities.
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  7. #17
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Character
    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Seidaku View Post
    What they need to do is give you more with caps so you have to choose to put them somewhere else. I would say they need to give you 3 times as many with no more than 30% in any given main stat and up to 40% in a sub stat.
    They should do something like this. Or they could do like they did in FFXI with Merit Points and add a cap to each stat.

    I'm not a mage job but I find the point system really stupid and a waste. If your a drg/mnk all points to STR, BRD DEX, PLD/WAR VIT. Some WARs use STR, But the VIT is better for their paper thin armor lol.
    I would love to add some points into VIT or DEX on my MNK but I can't because it would take away from my DPS.
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  8. #18
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    verily's Avatar
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    Character
    Vale Veritas
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Myric View Post
    This is mostly because Crystal Tower was removed and there isn't any ilvl 80 gear. Once it's out in 2.1, this won't matter.
    In beta people said it was pointless and wouldn't matter, and they were wrong. Now you're looking into your crystal ball and assuring me there will be zero reasons to ever change your stat point allotment in 2.1?

    Get real.

    This isn't a feature that doesn't work. It's simply a feature you've decided you don't like.
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  9. #19
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Character
    Evangela Monterossa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Just because you're the one who used it for your main stat doesn't mean everyone can't make good use of it.
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  10. #20
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    Frein's Avatar
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    Character
    Frein Mannis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphires View Post
    I put all mine into VIT on sch cause the fairy does a bulk of the healing and abilities like lustrate ignore MND.
    A healer with 4200+ hp can carry some very bad HM primal DF groups, get shanked twice in a row by WP tonberries and live etc.
    Ive watched some JP healers play with 4500+ hp and at first I thought it was kinda dumb to allocate+gear so hard for VIT but its an amazing alternate build with a buffer for when things go super bad or you play in mixed company.
    Fairy heals scale with MND, you know? Unless you absolutely need more VIT to survive a boss mechanic, there is no reason to put points in anything but MND on SCH. The only ones doing so are the people who think they can be special little snowflakes by putting their points into the wrong stat.

    Oh, you want to play SMN, too? Too bad. Switching back and forth between specs is a pain and not really a viable way to play the game. The point allocation system is useless and restricts players.
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