Remove bonus stat points

[Alhanelem]

All people I know will cancel sub if stat point customization is not removed. Also, you could always zoom out camera instead of allocating the points. Worked for me.

Why would people cancel their sub over something they see as irrelevant not being removed? What's the big deal? Set your stat points once, and forget about it. It's not even worth the work required to remove it. If such a tiny, miniscule issue makes someone want to quit, then they were already going to quit anyway.

[Ametrine]

Bolded part.. Actually you don't.. just dump it all in Int and maybe 2-4 points in vit and you will be fine.

Not recommended if you opt for SCH as your main, which I have.
Cleric Stance, while it swaps your MND and INT stats, does so at the cost of a 20% nerf to your heals, no matter which of the two stats were initially.
So, if you max your INT stat, which rocks for SMN, you'll never perform as well as a SCH as you will SMN (your Fairy's stats will reflect this, too! She's only as strong as you are!).

This is, at the core, why ACN's have extra to consider when allocating their bonus stats. You can pour all into one at the cost of the other, go half and half, or put some stats toward VIT or DEF, which could potentially benefit both.

I'm lead to beleive that as more jobs are added, this will be a consideration for all classes.

[Reiterpallasch]

The only ones doing so are the people who think they can be special little snowflakes by putting their points into the wrong stat.

Pretty much this. The only option that stat "customization" gives people, is the option to be wrong.

That said, I'm not against customization in general, it's just that in it's current state there's really only one right way to use your points for most classes. Take BRD for example. Am I going to pick STR? No. INT? No. MND? No. PIE? No. VIT? A select few (very few) situations may call for it, otherwise no. DEX? Yes. So of 6 different options, I have one great one, one maybe, and four no. That's not really customization, is it?

IMO what they should have done is made the points going into your sub stats I.E acc, crit, det, def, speed etc. It would allow people to tweak their character a bit with stats that will always work, even if some choices are better/worse than others, while allowing you to tweak gear sets a bit more for things like accuracy caps and such.

[Alhanelem]

VIT is useful to everyone. In some circumstances a few points of it can make the difference between dying an not. While there is only one way to maximize DPS, that doesn't mean that there isn't any value to allocating any stat points elsewhere.

(also for above poster example on BRD: More PIE means longer song duration, so that's not totally without merit either)

[Myric]

I would like it if it was for sub stats. It's just an illusion of choice and customization as it is now I think.

[Arkista]

Pretty much this. The only option that stat "customization" gives people, is the option to be wrong.

That said, I'm not against customization in general, it's just that in it's current state there's really only one right way to use your points for most classes. Take BRD for example. Am I going to pick STR? No. INT? No. MND? No. PIE? No. VIT? A select few (very few) situations may call for it, otherwise no. DEX? Yes. So of 6 different options, I have one great one, one maybe, and four no. That's not really customization, is it?

IMO what they should have done is made the points going into your sub stats I.E acc, crit, det, def, speed etc. It would allow people to tweak their character a bit with stats that will always work, even if some choices are better/worse than others, while allowing you to tweak gear sets a bit more for things like accuracy caps and such.

This a million times.
As the game sits right now it doesn't matter, Your job is going to benefit more from the main stat than anything else. That's the way the game is. If someone wants to argue otherwise then they need to bust out the math numbers to back it up. A MNK/DRG with and without 30 STR put 30 points into DEX and on MNK/DRG and see which has the better DPS. And if someone can prove that mixing stats is better DPS I'll change points today.

The only thing that will fix this is having a cap on stat points like merits in FFXI. That way when we get a level cap we wont have to put the new points into the main stat.

[Kayo]

I'm in the process of unlocking my 5th job and the point allotment system really seems pointless. You just always put it in your main stat and that's it. It's the same as not having it at all really.

Agreed. Just seems like an unecessary distraction.

[Evangela]

my WHM can have 5000 HP with this system so I support it to be what it is.

mind your own business, do it the way you think it's the right way for you. no need to take anything away from the others.

[Arkista]

my WHM can have 5000 HP with this system so I support it to be what it is.

mind your own business, do it the way you think it's the right way for you. no need to take anything away from the others.

It's not that easy to do what you want when most everyone says to do it a certain way. When someone comes WHM and they have 5000HP and they Cure for crap then people will know that you didn't allocate your skill points correctly.

[Evangela]

It's not that easy to do what you want when most everyone says to do it a certain way. When someone comes WHM and they have 5000HP and they Cure for crap then people will know that you didn't allocate your skill points correctly.

LOL I've never seen anyone ask me why I heal them 100 points less than other healers.