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    Frein's Avatar
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    Frein Mannis
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphires View Post
    I put all mine into VIT on sch cause the fairy does a bulk of the healing and abilities like lustrate ignore MND.
    A healer with 4200+ hp can carry some very bad HM primal DF groups, get shanked twice in a row by WP tonberries and live etc.
    Ive watched some JP healers play with 4500+ hp and at first I thought it was kinda dumb to allocate+gear so hard for VIT but its an amazing alternate build with a buffer for when things go super bad or you play in mixed company.
    Fairy heals scale with MND, you know? Unless you absolutely need more VIT to survive a boss mechanic, there is no reason to put points in anything but MND on SCH. The only ones doing so are the people who think they can be special little snowflakes by putting their points into the wrong stat.

    Oh, you want to play SMN, too? Too bad. Switching back and forth between specs is a pain and not really a viable way to play the game. The point allocation system is useless and restricts players.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    The only ones doing so are the people who think they can be special little snowflakes by putting their points into the wrong stat.
    Pretty much this. The only option that stat "customization" gives people, is the option to be wrong.

    That said, I'm not against customization in general, it's just that in it's current state there's really only one right way to use your points for most classes. Take BRD for example. Am I going to pick STR? No. INT? No. MND? No. PIE? No. VIT? A select few (very few) situations may call for it, otherwise no. DEX? Yes. So of 6 different options, I have one great one, one maybe, and four no. That's not really customization, is it?

    IMO what they should have done is made the points going into your sub stats I.E acc, crit, det, def, speed etc. It would allow people to tweak their character a bit with stats that will always work, even if some choices are better/worse than others, while allowing you to tweak gear sets a bit more for things like accuracy caps and such.
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    Myra Runewaker
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I would like it if it was for sub stats. It's just an illusion of choice and customization as it is now I think.
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    Dr Strange
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myric View Post
    I would like it if it was for sub stats. It's just an illusion of choice and customization as it is now I think.
    really just make it sound like what you really want is more points so you can be even stronger. Honestly this wont make much of a difference..there will still be one stat everyone pumps, most likely it will be VIT.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Pretty much this. The only option that stat "customization" gives people, is the option to be wrong.

    That said, I'm not against customization in general, it's just that in it's current state there's really only one right way to use your points for most classes. Take BRD for example. Am I going to pick STR? No. INT? No. MND? No. PIE? No. VIT? A select few (very few) situations may call for it, otherwise no. DEX? Yes. So of 6 different options, I have one great one, one maybe, and four no. That's not really customization, is it?

    IMO what they should have done is made the points going into your sub stats I.E acc, crit, det, def, speed etc. It would allow people to tweak their character a bit with stats that will always work, even if some choices are better/worse than others, while allowing you to tweak gear sets a bit more for things like accuracy caps and such.

    This a million times.
    As the game sits right now it doesn't matter, Your job is going to benefit more from the main stat than anything else. That's the way the game is. If someone wants to argue otherwise then they need to bust out the math numbers to back it up. A MNK/DRG with and without 30 STR put 30 points into DEX and on MNK/DRG and see which has the better DPS. And if someone can prove that mixing stats is better DPS I'll change points today.

    The only thing that will fix this is having a cap on stat points like merits in FFXI. That way when we get a level cap we wont have to put the new points into the main stat.
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    All be it WAR can do VIT or STR or a combo of both and be effective with there self healing abilities.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Just because you're the one who used it for your main stat doesn't mean everyone can't make good use of it.
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    VIT is useful to everyone. In some circumstances a few points of it can make the difference between dying an not. While there is only one way to maximize DPS, that doesn't mean that there isn't any value to allocating any stat points elsewhere.

    (also for above poster example on BRD: More PIE means longer song duration, so that's not totally without merit either)
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    Player Kayo's Avatar
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Myric View Post
    I'm in the process of unlocking my 5th job and the point allotment system really seems pointless. You just always put it in your main stat and that's it. It's the same as not having it at all really.
    Agreed. Just seems like an unecessary distraction.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    my WHM can have 5000 HP with this system so I support it to be what it is.

    mind your own business, do it the way you think it's the right way for you. no need to take anything away from the others.
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