How do I White Mage D:

[Jewelfox]

Hey, everyone. New WHM 50 here, still trying to wrap my head around the unwritten rules of endgame. Here's what I've gathered so far:

• THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
• Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.

But like, I'm running into problems where people keep dying in pickup groups when I'm just trying to do AK or WP. (At least, when I was trying that earlier before realizing I needed to level my other classes.) I don't have my relic or any DL gear except for the earring yet, so how am I supposed to get the gear I need to do endgame stuff if I can't do entry-level endgame dungeons to get gear?

Is it the fact that I'm trying to do pickup groups, or do I desperately need to upgrade my gear from the lv. 50 class stuff they give you? I know my technique needs work; (continued)

[Jewelfox]

just today I upgraded to a lv. 55 staff, and I've been reading strategy threads and think I need to adjust my hotbars and use Divine Seal more often. (And let the tank build hate before casting, and not have Regen on the tank when they pull, geeze.)

Is there anything else I need to know? Is there a particular gear set that's mandatory before AK / WP? And do attribute point upgrades that you earn on THM / ACN apply to your WHM as well? Because if so I need to do lots of grinding and put points into MND. >_>

[BunnyChain]

• THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
• Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.

Swiftcast is useful, not mandatory, don't let your people die or look for a different group. :P
What's on the arcanist at 36? Do you mean Eye-for an Eye at 34?
"Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20 seconds"
How's that even remotely required? Every 5th hit you'll receive 10% less damage. It's nice but not mandatory either.
This is coming from someone who cleared turn 4 already. :P

Full DL, yes for Coil, hardly for Garuda, maybe for Titan.
Get your relic.

[Slark]

Some of these might seem like common sense, but I don't know how new you are. ^^; If you have any questions, let me know. I'll probably check this thread up tomorrow. I could add a million things to this list, but heres a few that just popped in my mind right now.

Tips:
1) Dont regen near end of a trash mob fight. (!!!)
2) Dont regen pre-fight. (!!!)
3) Try to stoneskin between pulls and before bosses. (!!!)
4) Try to keep regen up on tank for entire bossfights.
5) Don't spam medica 2 for AOE healing. Go Medica2 > medica 1 until the HoT is off.
6) Try to squeeze in as much of Cure1 as you can as its way more efficient than cure 2. (!!!)
7) Cure 3 is largely useless if you are undergeared and can't supplement the mana for it.
8) Eye for an eye is a great skill, don't listen to anyone who says otherwise.
9) Try to run AK as much as possible for Strategos set. to placehold until DL
10)IMO, WP is easier if you have a geared tank, AK is easier if you have geared dps.
11) Overgeared tanks require extremely little healing in AK/WP if it isn't a speed run. Try to get one!!!
12) Once again, Ifrit/Garuda weapons make a HUGE HUGE HUGE impact on your healing. Try to get one!!!
13) Esuna anything and everything.
14) Make good use of Divine seal. Also, if you regen while Divine seal is up, the regen will stay as the stronger version even after divine seal fades. So try to put a fresh regen on the tank when its getting close to expiring.
15) Run Castrum if you are still having trouble with WP/AK
16) Going 30VIT attributes helps alot if you are new to HM primal fights.
17) Cap mythology every week.
18) Main pieces of gear are bigger upgrades than accessories (Head, Chest, Legs, Waist, Gloves, Feet) > (Earrings, Rings, Neck, etc) The main pieces are the main source of your VIT. I would probably grab as many of the main pieces as I could before switching to accessories. Don't get the tunic first, get cheap pieces like Waist/feet/hands first. Once you have a few pieces, go grind out that tunic. Also, try to get rid of anything below level 45 by buying AH whites/greens. You're better off wearing spiritbond whites and making some money than wearing crap level 27-42 stuff.

[Silverkin]

18) Main pieces of gear are bigger upgrades than accessories (Head, Chest, Legs, Waist, Gloves, Feet) > (Earrings, Rings, Neck, etc) The main pieces are the main source of your VIT. I would probably grab as many of the main pieces as I could before switching to accessories. Don't get the tunic first, get cheap pieces like Waist/feet/hands first. Once you have a few pieces, go grind out that tunic. Also, try to get rid of anything below level 45 by buying AH whites/greens. You're better off wearing spiritbond whites and making some money than wearing crap level 27-42 stuff.

This was very helpful, thank you!

[Sinaloa]

Swiftcast is useful, not mandatory, don't let your people die or look for a different group. :P
What's on the arcanist at 36? Do you mean Eye-for an Eye at 34?
"Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20 seconds"
How's that even remotely required? Every 5th hit you'll receive 10% less damage. It's nice but not mandatory either.
This is coming from someone who cleared turn 4 already. :P

Full DL, yes for Coil, hardly for Garuda, maybe for Titan.
Get your relic.

Another wrong explaination of Eye for an Eye even with quoting the tooltip. Eye for an Eye does not have a 20% Chance to reduce the damage by 10% it has a 20% Chance to reduce all damage after triggering by that mob for 20 seconds by 10%. A Mob attacking as frequent as a Player has a chance close to 100% triggering it at least once thus reducing all damage by 10% dealt by that mob. Very good in large pulls and on aoe heavy Mobs that you cant avoid (Titan Coil...) Moderate on tank and spank. You really want to have this skill but you can manage it without. Swiftcast on the other hand... I wont miss it.

[Bacher]

Swiftcast is useful, not mandatory, don't let your people die or look for a different group. :P
What's on the arcanist at 36? Do you mean Eye-for an Eye at 34?
"Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20 seconds"
How's that even remotely required? Every 5th hit you'll receive 10% less damage. It's nice but not mandatory either.
This is coming from someone who cleared turn 4 already. :P

Full DL, yes for Coil, hardly for Garuda, maybe for Titan.
Get your relic.

I'm sorry but that is absolutely NOT the way Eye for an Eye works. There is a thread started in the Healer forum about this exact type of misinformation about the skill.

[Garnatian]

ACN to 34? Hahaha, what, for Eye for an Eye? Hahaha.

That ability is awful.

[Jewelfox]

ACN to 34? Hahaha, what, for Eye for an Eye? Hahaha.

That ability is hands down the worst ability the ACN has.

I guess I'm being hard on myself here and trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[Slark]

I didn't pick up swiftcast till turn 2 in coil. I also sold titan runs with my group without swiftcast. It is not mandatory, although it most certainly makes life 100 times easier. Eye for an eye is not mandatory either, even less so than swiftcast. I personally prefer Virus over Eye for an Eye as a single target damage mitigator although I have, and use both.
You can do Ifrit with pretty much "just hit level 50" gear, you can do garuda with like half DL, Titan probably like 85-90% DL if you choose to pug it, and 100%DL for coil not really any exceptions here.
Get your hands on a garuda/ifrit weapon asap, then go after relic once your gear looks decent for titan.

Other class attributes do not carry over to WHM.
Best thing to do is grab some good, geared dps/tanks to party with early on. If you don't its still possible, just slower, probably with alot of wipes.