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    Jewelfox's Avatar
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    How do I White Mage D:

    Hey, everyone. New WHM 50 here, still trying to wrap my head around the unwritten rules of endgame. Here's what I've gathered so far:
    • THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
    • Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.

    But like, I'm running into problems where people keep dying in pickup groups when I'm just trying to do AK or WP. (At least, when I was trying that earlier before realizing I needed to level my other classes.) I don't have my relic or any DL gear except for the earring yet, so how am I supposed to get the gear I need to do endgame stuff if I can't do entry-level endgame dungeons to get gear?

    Is it the fact that I'm trying to do pickup groups, or do I desperately need to upgrade my gear from the lv. 50 class stuff they give you? I know my technique needs work; (continued)
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    just today I upgraded to a lv. 55 staff, and I've been reading strategy threads and think I need to adjust my hotbars and use Divine Seal more often. (And let the tank build hate before casting, and not have Regen on the tank when they pull, geeze.)

    Is there anything else I need to know? Is there a particular gear set that's mandatory before AK / WP? And do attribute point upgrades that you earn on THM / ACN apply to your WHM as well? Because if so I need to do lots of grinding and put points into MND. >_>
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    Rena Cebe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    • THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
    • Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.
    Swiftcast is useful, not mandatory, don't let your people die or look for a different group. :P
    What's on the arcanist at 36? Do you mean Eye-for an Eye at 34?
    "Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20 seconds"
    How's that even remotely required? Every 5th hit you'll receive 10% less damage. It's nice but not mandatory either.
    This is coming from someone who cleared turn 4 already. :P

    Full DL, yes for Coil, hardly for Garuda, maybe for Titan.
    Get your relic.
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    Gaust Euler
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    ACN to 34? Hahaha, what, for Eye for an Eye? Hahaha.

    That ability is awful.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-05-2013 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    ACN to 34? Hahaha, what, for Eye for an Eye? Hahaha.

    That ability is hands down the worst ability the ACN has.
    I guess I'm being hard on myself here and trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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    Slark Strider
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    I didn't pick up swiftcast till turn 2 in coil. I also sold titan runs with my group without swiftcast. It is not mandatory, although it most certainly makes life 100 times easier. Eye for an eye is not mandatory either, even less so than swiftcast. I personally prefer Virus over Eye for an Eye as a single target damage mitigator although I have, and use both.
    You can do Ifrit with pretty much "just hit level 50" gear, you can do garuda with like half DL, Titan probably like 85-90% DL if you choose to pug it, and 100%DL for coil not really any exceptions here.
    Get your hands on a garuda/ifrit weapon asap, then go after relic once your gear looks decent for titan.

    Other class attributes do not carry over to WHM.
    Best thing to do is grab some good, geared dps/tanks to party with early on. If you don't its still possible, just slower, probably with alot of wipes.
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    Last edited by Slark; 11-05-2013 at 08:06 PM.

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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Run WP to cap you mythology tombstones each week and get the gear drops. Farm Ifrit for your primal weapon, and run the 8 man dungeons or WP for Philo and start upgrading to DL. Also replace all your low level accessories with level 48 crafted stuff. It's cheap. You're just making life harder on yourself if you don't and probably why you can't keep your party up.

    Get swiftcast and love it.
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    Last edited by PetiteMalFleur; 11-05-2013 at 07:45 PM.

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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Hi Mira,

    I notice you're on my sever. I don't know when your online times are, but I help manage a LS on Balmung for puggers who are either also RPers or friendly to RPers. We pretty much do everything up to Coils (though Titan runs are very few and far between). I should be on in a few hours (generally around Noon CST is when I get online), and if you are, poke me in-game and I can try to hook you up with some experienced tanks and help you sort out your accessories a bit.
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    Mexi Lostbane
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    Siren
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    Swiftcast is mandatory and makes life easier when you need to raise someone or cast something long mid fight.

    If you're struggling with WP then go back to CM and Praetorium and use some tomes to upgrade. Don't jump straight in to AK until you're comfortable with WP.

    WP will get you iLvl 55 gear. Make sure Proshell is up all the time, cast stoneskin on people before boss fights, make good use of regen and don't panic. Don't run forwards in WP though because you can trigger mobs inadvertently.

    WP Bosses: remove the debuff the goobbue puts on, stay out of red circles and stay at a distance. Puddings: try and make sure you stoneskin people at the start and be aware that someone will get targetted once the adds are down so they may need extra healing. Final boss: make sure no more than 3 maybe 4 adds are being killed before he uses his rancor attack and that the tank has as many protective buffs on them as possible before it hits. Be prepared to put a big cure on.
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Some of these might seem like common sense, but I don't know how new you are. ^^; If you have any questions, let me know. I'll probably check this thread up tomorrow. I could add a million things to this list, but heres a few that just popped in my mind right now.

    Tips:
    1) Dont regen near end of a trash mob fight. (!!!)
    2) Dont regen pre-fight. (!!!)
    3) Try to stoneskin between pulls and before bosses. (!!!)
    4) Try to keep regen up on tank for entire bossfights.
    5) Don't spam medica 2 for AOE healing. Go Medica2 > medica 1 until the HoT is off.
    6) Try to squeeze in as much of Cure1 as you can as its way more efficient than cure 2. (!!!)
    7) Cure 3 is largely useless if you are undergeared and can't supplement the mana for it.
    8) Eye for an eye is a great skill, don't listen to anyone who says otherwise.
    9) Try to run AK as much as possible for Strategos set. to placehold until DL
    10)IMO, WP is easier if you have a geared tank, AK is easier if you have geared dps.
    11) Overgeared tanks require extremely little healing in AK/WP if it isn't a speed run. Try to get one!!!
    12) Once again, Ifrit/Garuda weapons make a HUGE HUGE HUGE impact on your healing. Try to get one!!!
    13) Esuna anything and everything.
    14) Make good use of Divine seal. Also, if you regen while Divine seal is up, the regen will stay as the stronger version even after divine seal fades. So try to put a fresh regen on the tank when its getting close to expiring.
    15) Run Castrum if you are still having trouble with WP/AK
    16) Going 30VIT attributes helps alot if you are new to HM primal fights.
    17) Cap mythology every week.
    18) Main pieces of gear are bigger upgrades than accessories (Head, Chest, Legs, Waist, Gloves, Feet) > (Earrings, Rings, Neck, etc) The main pieces are the main source of your VIT. I would probably grab as many of the main pieces as I could before switching to accessories. Don't get the tunic first, get cheap pieces like Waist/feet/hands first. Once you have a few pieces, go grind out that tunic. Also, try to get rid of anything below level 45 by buying AH whites/greens. You're better off wearing spiritbond whites and making some money than wearing crap level 27-42 stuff.
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    Last edited by Slark; 11-05-2013 at 08:12 PM.

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