"Don't tell me how to do my job"

[RyuujinZERO]

Just a public service announcement for the tanks out there.

Yes, your job is important, it's difficult and often stressful. It doesn't make you "better" than the other members of your party however, you are one cog in the machine. Bare in mind that those "filthy DPS" you talk down to, very likely play other classes, possibly even tanks; and may have more experience than you. (Believe it or not, playing a DPS class to it's fullest potential is actually just as difficult as tanking or healing!)

After wiping twice on the final stalker section of Wanderer's palace because you tried tank the mobs halfway down the hall where the stalker's going to shank you, it's maybe time you start listening to your "stupid DPS". Deliberately letting people die because a "filthy dragoon" dared tell you your business is just plain immature.


/end PSA



- Signed: A tired-of-this-bullshit Dragoon (also scholar and warrior)

[Garnatian]

Same with any role.

[Paikis]

Cool story bro, write a book.

[Avalon_Albrook]

Signing the sentiment to this, and I say that as a paladin through and through.


Leveling white mage now (at 46 and looooooooving Holy at almost inappropriate levels) and I finally came across my first ragequit tank in Stone Vigil. The guy was a warrior and completely inept at holding aggro on anything, or even establishing it. For instance-- 3 mobs ahead, he runs in, pulls on the first one, whacks away at it, I think I sort of see a flash used, I wait a good 10 seconds just to be sure he has SOME kind of hate on everything, and I finally toss a cure on him. Not a cure II, just cure. Boom, 2 of the three mobs come right at me. Happens on every damn pull. On top of the ineptitude, the warrior thought he was hot stuff and was mouthing off to the rest of us about not knowing how to play our roles and not knowing when to hold back so we didn't pull aggro off of him.

Lawl. Turns out the other three of us were all tanks and in there leveling our alts. So, we were all like, "um... um... no".

After the second boss, we finally had to be like, okay, we get you think we're the ones doing something here, but we're all tanks and we're noticing that you aren't doing combo rotations, you aren't using aoe hate builders like flash, etc, and we need you to focus more on rotation and hate from all mobs, not just the first one you pull."

His response? "Okay then, take care." And immediately left.

Our reaction?



The point of the story is, if a white mage or a dragoon or a summoner or whatever is pointing something out to you, dismissing it on account of the job you're only seeing them in at that moment is utter foolishness. Common sense is not class-specific, and there's every chance that white mage or dragoon or summoner has already mastered the very job you're getting so e-peened over.


Oh, I almost forgot the best part of my example story. (That's a lie, I would never forget it, I just wanted to draw more attention to it.) Just to spite that ragequitting warrior, the two dps and I went on to reach the final boss in Stone Vigil and one-shotted him while a tank that joined the party mid-way through the fight was forced to watch us do it from outside the final area.

[studionevermore1]

His response? "Okay then, take care." And immediately left.

Our reaction?



The point of the story is, if a white mage or a dragoon or a summoner or whatever is pointing something out to you, dismissing it on account of the job you're only seeing them in at that moment is utter foolishness. Common sense is not class-specific, and there's every chance that white mage or dragoon or summoner has already mastered the very job you're getting so e-peened over.
Oh, I almost forgot the best part of my example story. (That's a lie, I would never forget it, I just wanted to draw more attention to it.) Just to spite that ragequitting warrior, the two dps and I went on to reach the final boss in Stone Vigil and one-shotted him while a tank that joined the party mid-way through the fight was forced to watch us do it from outside the final area.

This is so good i cried tears of kittens

[Phreak]

Players being assholes from behind a screen in the comfort of their chair? Who'd of thought. Pretty easy to be a dick to people in a random people generator that you stand little chance of seeing again.

[Eightbit]

As a general rule I try to learn the basic ins and outs for every class. SO if you are a complete moron (one such example given above), there is a good chance I do know more than you despite the fact I haven't thoroughly played your class. This goes to all classes.

Second, almost every bit of advice given in a party chat has some truth to it. From the polite suggestions to the raging death threats. Sure get offended but after you calm down look at what was said and research what you can improve off it. May not be much there but learn it and improve. Though sometimes the message is player x is a complete dumbass and should probably be left in their own special corner.

[zakalw3]

There are just as many "bad" players in every role.

This is a useless thread.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

There are just as many "bad" players in every role.

This is a useless thread.

^This. That should be a shout out to all players, not just the tanks.

Realistically, if a tank is in these forums, reading what anybody has to say . . . they aren't playing like that, because we've already told them to seek psychiatric assistance.

The flipside of course, is, don't say "/party GET HATE OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING"

news flash, Neither Warrior, or PLD, have an ability called "Get Hate" That, so to speak to this comment:

Second, almost every bit of advice given in a party chat has some truth to it.

It's a good thing you said almost. . . coz that was actually typed to me when I was running my first endgame dungeons. (Mostly AK). The fact of the matter was I was undergeared, and the DPS were just all out DPS'ing, just like they did with their static tank, who was apparently in much better gear than I was.

[Resolute]

That's all well and good. If someone asks me to do something differently, I usually will accommodate. But it does get annoying sometimes when the healer or dps bark orders at me because they like something done a very specific way in a dungeon. It is especially annoying when everything is going smoothly and there is really no need to change how we are doing things. I feel like I am being treated like a Titan Egi at that point.