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  1. #51
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    PapesseLudovique's Avatar
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    Arlecchino Palazzo
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akujin View Post
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    What's your point? Other than counter whining, and hamfisted sarcasm.
    Here's the thing, you can maybe get two pieces of myth gear/month max. It doesn't just happen "not quickly".

    You need about 4900 TSoM for a full set. At 300/week that comes to 16 weeks, or 3.5 months. That's assuming you grind out all 300 every week.

    I know, I know, you really want to be that "this generation of entitled gamers..blah blah blah in my day games sucked but they made me a man" guy. But it isn't relevant here. If you started today you wouldn't get a full AF+1 set until what? January of next year? How is that an acceptable time-frame to suit up for CURRENT content in a game with gradually added content?

    What is the point? The next raid is actually EASIER than the current raid. So why be such a hard ass over this stuff? We already have Coil for that long term goal.
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  2. #52
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    Budi's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Arie Laure
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    It probably has been said already, but you can do all content with Relic + Darklight gear. So all you really need is time (to grind Philo Tomes). If you have gil it's even better as you can use crafted i70 gear, that in some cases can be better than i90 gear.
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  3. #53
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    Suellen Harkwyn
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'd argue it's too easy to gear up alts. As I tank WP/AK I'm collecting tons of dungeon drops and tomes for my alts. When I hit 50 on my war I rocked that AF set while I slowly accumulated i55 and i60 drops as well as tomes for eventual i70. This took time. But when my monk hits 50? whatever I can't just throw tomes to get instant i70 gear will be filled with AK i60. Boom nearly coil ready fresh out of the leveling box. The fact is you can gear your alts while on your overly geared main. What other game (ffxi excluded) lets you do that? Gearing alts is easy. This game is honestly one of the most alt friendly mmos I've played.
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  4. #54
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    I'd argue it's too easy to gear up alts. As I tank WP/AK I'm collecting tons of dungeon drops and tomes for my alts. When I hit 50 on my war I rocked that AF set while I slowly accumulated i55 and i60 drops as well as tomes for eventual i70. This took time. But when my monk hits 50? whatever I can't just throw tomes to get instant i70 gear will be filled with AK i60. Boom nearly coil ready fresh out of the leveling box. The fact is you can gear your alts while on your overly geared main. What other game (ffxi excluded) lets you do that? Gearing alts is easy. This game is honestly one of the most alt friendly mmos I've played.
    Somehow the armoury system is completely pointless when it doesn't work the way some people want it to.
    It's just so easy to ignore the benefits of it when it doesn't let you be the best at everything, at the same time (at least a while).

    The only thing I'd agree with is if they let you run Coil multiple times, but only get loot the first time.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 11-08-2013 at 08:09 PM.

  5. #55
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    AlestrinVier's Avatar
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    Alestrin Vier
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Do what other games make you do and roll an entirely new character instead. You can do lockout raids and myth stone caps twice then.
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  6. #56
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Being able to "deck out" all your jobs at once is an absolutely HORRIBLE idea. Focusing on one job at a time is the way it should be or spread it out and gear all jobs at a slower pace, if that is what you want. You don't even need to be "deck out" to do Coil anyways, a relic weapon and mostly Darklight is all you need, which are far TOO EASY to get.

    Also, it is entirely possible to "deck out" all your jobs without relying on myth tombs by using materia crafted gear, but you have to put some effort into it. If you're expecting it to just be handed to you then you deserves to be shot in the face.
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  7. #57
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    Heartwire's Avatar
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    Kittencorpse Bbq
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    I know right , they could allow 300 tomes per job not just per character .

    Not sure what they were thinking when they allowed people to level more than one job per character and yet at lvl 50 you are stuck to just gearing with relic + DF gear .
    I could agree with this, but only if they lock the myth tome usage to those specific class items (minus jewelry)
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  8. #58
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    HealBus's Avatar
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    Heal Bus
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    No point gearing up multiple classes when you can only do content that requires the gear once per week.
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  9. #59
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    Kaeren Rhys
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EclaireSpiritBomb View Post
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    ....and the OP is mad because they can't switch jobs on one character to a job specific cooldown timer, or get the mythology gear on another job?

    Hmmm... that sounds like standard rules for MMO as it's felt for the one's I've played ((Aion, EQ, WoW)) It would be nice tho, if they added an additional quest line to get another set of mythology gear -I'd certainly invest the grind time for it if that was an option.
    It's not a one-shot quest line, it's dungeon farming for tokens with a weekly cap. So, it's possible to obtain the mythology AF/relic +1 for every job.

    The thing is, with the current cap (300 tokens per week), it will take you 122 weeks (yeah, 2 years and 4 months) to do it (without taking jewelry and belts into account, as well as possible new jobs which will be added inbetween).

    For a armor set that will be replaced in 4 months, it seems a little overkill to me.

    The alt character argument is a little asinine when SE do in fact encourage players to stay on 1 character (like making it impossible to send mail to alts for example).
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  10. #60
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    There is another option for those like the OP. We did this back in the FFXI days with those content lockouts of various types.

    Join a good FC. No one ever uses the 'need' button, it is an instant boot from the FC. You can either use a points system or priority list. Then for drops you can spend points / high priority gear for any job that will give the biggest benefit to you. This way you can get DRG chest on turn 1 then on turn 2 get WHM head. Your WHM doesn't even have to touch coil, and this drop will do more for your WHM and thus your FC than the ability to need on DRG neck instead. mind = blown

    This is possible because... You don't need all lvl 90 gear for turn 1 - 4 (and probably not 5 but no one can really say atm). Now you are out of darklight on multiple jobs in some areas. This goes for spending your myth too. Spend it on pants for one job, or save it for a body on another. Once you have a job geared well enough to clear the content you do whichever will give the most benefit to your character / FC.

    Every drop or token spent this way will improve you for your group on multiple jobs. This is better for your FC than having 1 full 90 job and the rest in 60-70.
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