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  1. #101
    Player Raelton's Avatar
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    Rael Ton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    well from all the mmo's that ive played before, its usually based on their expansion release schedule. it might open up later with later patches or expansions.
    I mean sure this that or the other might be released in 2months to a year but there are so many options when it comes to games now that companies can't afford to wait that long.

    The example everyone gives "World of Warcraft wasn't perfect at launch." When World of Warcraft launched there wasn't 10 MMOs before it and 5 more coming out in the next year. The game had time to develop because aside from EQ there wasn't much else to play with that game style. Trinity MMOs are a dime a dozen these days. You can't make a game with this many problems and such a huge lack of content and just say "well we'll fix it in upcoming patches." Do you still play Age of Conan? War Hammer? Rift? Aion? SWTOR? I mean the list goes on forever. There are so many games out now and so many games have failed that you'd think developers would learn from other companies successes and failures, but clearly they do not.
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  2. #102
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    This is incorrect. It doesn't take longer, it isn't possible.
    You know you can do Coil with one job and buy myth gear...for another job ! On the same week !
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  3. #103
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Why not? There is really no logical reasoning behind this that I can see. Are we trying to make the people who play less feel better about themselves or something? I pay for a game and I want to play it, is it really more complicated than that? When the level cap is raised all this gear that takes months of work to get will become useless, why gate it so early when there is a huge number of players who are already hitting this gate within 5-6 hrs a week?
    Because the people who play 40 hours a week and get all gear for all jobs in the first month would start to complain that the next new gear come in 2 month and not next week.
    Therefore the best is to do that even those who play 40 hours a week don't get all gears in the first month.

    In old MMORPGs it was done with abysmal droprates.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-22-2013 at 02:59 PM.

  4. #104
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    Pleasures Mercuie
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    I'm not sure why people are against being able to have each job have its own myth cap. How does this effect your game play in any way? Would you then feel the pressure to collect it on every job so you wouldn't fall behind. You enjoy the pace now because it locks everyone into a pace you can keep up with? Isn't that your issue? I know I get pretty bored after getting my 300 each week. I would enjoy being able to gain another 300 for my BRD, and soon another 300 for my SMN, and another 300 for my SCH. I have the time. So again, how does that effect you? And why should I be held back because of it?
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercuie View Post
    I'm not sure why people are against being able to have each job have its own myth cap. How does this effect your game play in any way?
    The reason is, because it's the way the game is designed.

    Yoshi-P made a post discussing the reasons here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1578533

    There is no point in pushing the envelope. It will never happen until they decide they want to.

    Like someone else said, If you're so adamant about it, then make a petition.
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  6. #106
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    Hmm, how about a GC item, that reset the myth cap? It could cost 20k seals.
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  7. #107
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    Well I was right. It's limited because of those who don't want to get left behind. I understand that reasoning but I still dislike it. At the very least I would love a stunted amount on maybe a job of my picking. But that doesn't really.. work well. So. I'm not that passionate about it, I just disagree with it. No petition from me. Nice to know though its not about people running out of content to do as much as holding it back so casuals don't feel left out. As a lot of people keep using the excuse "If they let you get it too fast then you'll complain once you get it all!" Which is more of them saying "I can't get it as fast as you and if I can't have it, you can't either!"

    Anyway I can live with the answer. i80 will let me gear out my alt classes.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercuie View Post
    I can live with the answer. i80 will let me gear out my alt classes.
    I agree.

    I think that the argument would be much different if we had CT out at release. Many people would be doing that regularly and using it to gear up their alts.

    Actually, now that I think about it, I don't believe many would be complaining at all because the gap wouldn't be so large. I.E. iLv90 vs. iLv80.

    The way that it is set up right now, people are stuck on that 20 level difference and feel that their alt classes are "gimp" because they're only efficiently able to gather equipment for one job.

    After CT is released, I believe these complaints will really die down. At least until the next tier of BCoB comes out.

    Also, IMO, because CT is going to be in the Duty Finder, there won't be a lockout for it each week. It will probably become more efficient to run CT than do WP/AK over and over because

    1.) The gear is higher iLv and

    2.) The majority of people are super burnt out on WP and AK already.

    With all the new ways of gaining Tomes of Mythology with 2.1, the QoL will increase and boredom factor will inherently decrease.

    This is still all speculation at this point. However, I'm hoping that this is what they are planning to achieve.

    P.S. I can't wait to see how CT works. I mean, with 24 people, I wonder how many chests we will actually see per floor?
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    Last edited by Neo_Genesis; 11-22-2013 at 03:45 PM.

  9. #109
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    I'm not sure why people are against being able to have each job have its own myth cap.
    It's not that people are against it, it's that SE have said it won't be happening and have given pretty valid reasons. It's actually not a discussion point anymore because we know what will be happening in 2.1:
    - Myth cap will be raised to 450
    - CT will provide another avenue for us to easily cap myth (and gear with iLvl 80)

    The problem with an individual job myth cap is totally related to people staying relatively on par with each other. Apart from that it's also counter intuitive to the armory system. Apart from that there's actually no reason to be gearing more than 2 jobs to the teeth with ilvl 90 at the moment, apart from e-peen and burning yourself out of content.
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  10. #110
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    Cesil Rapture
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    Quote Originally Posted by KHShadowrunner View Post
    Let's just make sure the topic is accurate though:

    This is not about not being able to play the game.

    This is specifically about two features that you are unable to do:
    * Gear up in Allagan Gear
    * Enter Coil
    It is about just that though...since Yoshida said the game really starts at end game and all there is to do is coil....yeah, OP has a point.
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