It must be a sign...

[Phreak]

So I made the swap to PLD today and...

Killed Ifrit for relic chain, won the weapon.

Killed Garuda for relic chain, won the weapon.

Killed Titan for relic chain, won the shield.

These were all my first kills of those primals as a PLD.

Can't wait for coil next week!

I also have to add WAR was my first and until today only 50, took it through to Twintania. Playing as a PLD now, I feel almost indestructible, I feel much more in control of the damage I take instead of being just a large HP bar in a suit of armor.

It also feels like I have more to do, stuns, silences, blinding, pacification, 2 offensive skills off the GCD to watch, and that when I do push to do more I'm actually getting something out of my character rather than just trying to strive to break even.

Just my personal experience thus far as a PLD re-roll.

[Paikis]

Funny, I started as a PLD, then leveled WAR in 2 days because I was sick of agro issues (I had Ifrit's sword, and I had a relic SMN and relic MNK in my static group... not fun). I prefer WAR honestly, as a Paladin I feel like I have no control of my HP bar. I KNOW that this is an illusion, and that I would have much more eHP on the PLD, but I just prefer the feel of the WAR.

To each their own. I honestly hope they don't buff the WAR too much in the coming patch. I *like* the fact that I constantly get compliments about being a really good Warrior, and the fact that I've tanked everything in the game (yes including dreadnaughts) tells me that WAR is good enough.

Glad you're enjoying the PLD though, after all that's why we're here isn't it?

[Ehayte]

I have to echo Paikis' sentiment. I leveled a PLD first and got it to Relic and the AF2 chest, and now I'm playing WAR.

I really prefer the WAR feel - I feel like I have much much more control over the ebb and flow of my HP bar. Certainly I can feel that I have less eHP, but I can make up for the mistakes of my healers with my myriad healing abilities. I do feel like I have less utility as a WAR (no silence, shitty stun, no Off-GCD meaningful attacks).

I am starting to understand what I think is the underlying frustration with WAR, in that all of the abilities that a WAR has are geared towards being the MAIN tank. Overpower feels good but not essential, but with Thrill of Battle and the healing and recovery abilities we have, I think a WAR in good hands FEELS more like the main tank.

PLD, when I play it now, feels like the utility tank; it offers silence, an AE move that rocks socks, consistent stun, stoneskin on self and others, MP recovery, a (horrible) cure spell. Its through the innate abilities and OPed CDs that PLDs have that make them the go-to tank. I really feel like an OT in a MTs shoes while playing PLD since I DON'T need to (or can't really) worry about my HP, I can worry about what others are doing, what other mobs are doing, manage my CDs, Stun, etc. The WAR feels like it was tuned to keep your attention on a smaller number of things, with a greater % of your attention focused on your own hit points.

I'd like to see a buff to WARs that reverse the current roles (PLD to off-tank, WAR to MT) - but I know that's a very very long shot and it would piss everyone off, and its against the spirit of the sentiment to which I agree: the game was designed to have two main tanks (I agree it WAS designed this way, not that it is correct - I actually think that's dumb as hell).

[Mishini_Dracoto]

I'm levelling my PLD now. I'm only level 32 mind you, but I'm finding it fairly dry. I desperately miss my Overpower, to be honest. I decided yesterday that I'm going to invest in my Mythology Accessories before anything else, since I'll use those on both WAR & PLD.

PLD appears to be easy mode. You can do more, with less gear. WAR is more engaging, and I think actually contributes more in the hands of a good player . . . but law of averages says that that means there will be a larger ration of crappy WAR's than crappy PLD's . . . making PLD's the go-to. All the same, I'm looking forward to endgame w/ versatility of both classes.

[Ariyn]

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I disagree with almost everything you said. You feel like WAR is a main tank because they can control their hp bar? You have no more control over it then a PLD does. yes you have a couple self heals but once those are gone you are at much more of a disadvantage. PLD has more eHP. Until they change that and make the healing increase to WAR then WAR won't be a MT unless a fc wants to do a "hard mode". having a war MT is just putting undue stress on your healers. While they can tank anything in game it doesn't mean that it is not easier with a PLD

[Ehayte]

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When you use your heals, you can regenerate them...

You agree with everything I said, and you perceive the Jobs the same way I do. I think WAR needs a buff, but I feel like the abilities are TUNED to MTing...they are not powerful enough to accomplish it. Were they powerful enough, I feel (operative word) that WAR feels (operative word) more like a MT : D

I 100% agree WAR abilities don't stack up in terms of power to PLD abilities currently.

[Orophin]

Funny, I started as a PLD, then leveled WAR in 2 days because I was sick of agro issues (I had Ifrit's sword, and I had a relic SMN and relic MNK in my static group... not fun

Really doesn't matter what tank class you play as, if a relic +1 DPS wants to pull hate off of you they will do it.

[Grogin]

I am now leveling PLD after going WAR to 50. I must say that the leveling of WAR was much easier and more fun in my opinion. PLD just seems really boring while getting to 50. I am excited to see the difference when I get to 50 though.

[CyanDvai]

My War is only 32 and I haven't tanked anything yet on it, I already had like 25 levels in from v1.0.
I have played with the idea of leveling war for the versatility of tanking styles (I have always played a PLD class in every MMO).

I have been on the edge of which class to work on BRD, WHM, WAR (even considering SCH), but PLD has always and will always be my Main class. I am wondering how the WAR buff will affect the Job.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

Really doesn't matter what tank class you play as, if a relic +1 DPS wants to pull hate off of you they will do it.

yes, and I will Hate them for it! I will curse their families and curse their first born child into the arms of rumplestilkskin, and their first born daughter shall be cursed with the visage of a pig! Their Houses shall Crumble and their crops will wither! Only when they face true destitution and desparity shall I grant them their final release from this curse - death.