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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    I do not play a tank so I really don't understand their queue times and had no idea it was really that short. As a healer I occasionally get 30min+ queue times even with "Join in Progress" checked. Thanks for pointing out that flaw.


    I do not agree with your proposal about removing Progress entirely being the solution. This would create a system where players such as myself would search and base whether not they want to join on the time remaining. If we believe the time remaining corresponds do the place we want to be at, then we join. But if we join and find out we were mistaken, then we leave immediately (joining a dungeon in progress and leaving has no penalty). The only change I see from hiding Progress is that those who seek in progress have to reset their search around 30 seconds later than they would had they simply declined the offer to enter.
    Giving an extended penalty to players who quit out of N number of dungeons in T time seems like a better solution.

    I also do not agree with the zero positives, but I already mentioned what I believe is gained from this and you have given your opinion as well.

    What would your view be on the addition of showing what roles are present in the dungeon? I believe this will cut down on the number of times players join a dungeon that has a single afk player. While this would also scare some people out of joining if a tank or healer role is missing.
    You clearly want this game to be even more casual than it already is. They should allow you to join in-progress groups, but they should NOT show the progress, or time remaining until after you join. I'm sorry if this game is "too demanding" for you to enjoy it, but you should NOT be queuing for anything unless you know you can participate the ENTIRE run. If you have 10 minutes before you need to go to work, then guess what, you don't have time to queue.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Izanami Kastra
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    You clearly want this game to be even more casual than it already is. They should allow you to join in-progress groups, but they should NOT show the progress, or time remaining until after you join. I'm sorry if this game is "too demanding" for you to enjoy it, but you should NOT be queuing for anything unless you know you can participate the ENTIRE run. If you have 10 minutes before you need to go to work, then guess what, you don't have time to queue.
    Sorry, I didn't clearly state it earlier. Even though I can only play late friday to mid sunday I am online many hours those days.It's not that I join in progress regularly because I can't complete the whole run from start to finish. It's that I can't play during the week so I try to increase the amount of dungeons I can collect rewards for in the time frame that I can play in order to stay competitive. Recently I have been gathering some friends and running Wanderer's Palace start to finish in 11-15mins many times instead of searching for dungeons in progress.

    By no means do I find this game demanding. I'm usually on the side of making this game less casual. Adding this feature wouldn't make this game more casual, but it would add a convenience to the duty finder system.

    Quote Originally Posted by VahnValbosce View Post
    Just curious as to why you think fishing for "in progress" dungeons is better...
    It's not that I'm actively searching for a dungeon with the sole purpose of completing the dungeon. It's more of I want to level a lower level class, but I might as well search for a dungeon while I'm soloing so I can save time later. I agree that it is much faster to set up a group of players yourself or join one that is shouting and run with them.

    Edit: Another quote.
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    Last edited by Curagaja; 11-07-2013 at 12:59 PM.

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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    Sorry, I didn't clearly state it earlier. Even though I can only play late friday to mid sunday I am online many hours those days.It's not that I join in progress regularly because I can't complete the whole run from start to finish. It's that I can't play during the week so I try to increase the amount of dungeons I can collect rewards for in the time frame that I can play in order to stay competitive. Recently I have been gathering some friends and running Wanderer's Palace start to finish in 11-15mins many times instead of searching for dungeons in progress.

    By no means do I find this game demanding. I'm usually on the side of making this game less casual. Adding this feature wouldn't make this game more casual, but it would add a convenience to the duty finder system.
    Again, joining in progress is only there to facilitate wait times, and help parties that lost someone. It IS NOT there so the person joining can get full rewards in 5 minutes. They will never add a feature to make THAT more convenient.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  4. 11-07-2013 01:04 PM